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Quote: MattyB "Might not have been talking about Keighran though.
Didn’t think of that.

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Quote: NickyKiss "One thing that is apparent with Smith, is that when his forwards and the team in general are on, his job is so much easier and he's absolutely outstanding at controlling the game for us. Funnily enough, I'm sat working (giving myself 5 mins..ha) and a podcast with Kevin Sinfield is on in the background and Smith has an ideal example there of a guy to look to in terms of how important his role is over this next few weeks. Like Sinfield, Harry Smith will never win something like a man of steel award and during a long season, he'll have periods where things get a bit rough, because when the side isn't playing well, his qualities won't massively stand out but when the big games come and everyone is switched on and playing at full intensity, that is the time when you will realise just how important he is.'"


I think that is right, but I would also say that he hasn't exactly set the world alight in those big games previously (maybe that's unfair and obviously he's a young player and improving).

Really interested to see him in the play-offs - England could do with him kicking on to be a really top player.

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Quote: FearTheVee "I think that is right, but I would also say that he hasn't exactly set the world alight in those big games previously (maybe that's unfair and obviously he's a young player and improving).

Really interested to see him in the play-offs - England could do with him kicking on to be a really top player.'"


He was robbed blind of the Lance Todd last year

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Quote: apollosghost "He was robbed blind of the Lance Todd last year'"

Still can’t believe that, why they picked it on the 72nd minute I don’t know especially when the score was so close, even still he was MOTM by a country mile. Can’t think of a big game where he’s let us down really. Semi final last year v Leeds but the whole team was poor.

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Quote: FearTheVee "I think that is right, but I would also say that he hasn't exactly set the world alight in those big games previously (maybe that's unfair and obviously he's a young player and improving).

Really interested to see him in the play-offs - England could do with him kicking on to be a really top player.'"

I'd disagree with that. It's perhaps in the lesser games where he could be more dominant but hasn't always been but I think that is usually more to do with how the team has played as a whole. When he's been asked to step up he has for the most part including in the mid season international.

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Quote: CobraCraig "Keighrans goal kicking stats aren’t amazing though, he’s kicking at a lower conversion rate than Smith did last season, I don’t think it’s a dead cert that he even takes the kicking duties.'"



I hope Keighran takes the goal kicking duties. Harry is a good player but he has the added pressure of none goalkicking duties as well as the responsibility of getting us around the field all of the time. If we take the goal kicking pressure off him he could blossom even more.

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Quote: CJamesy "Still can’t believe that, why they picked it on the 72nd minute I don’t know especially when the score was so close, even still he was MOTM by a country mile. Can’t think of a big game where he’s let us down really. Semi final last year v Leeds but the whole team was poor.'"


CCSF when he kicked down the fullbacks throat on the 3rd tackle and they went and kicked a DG?

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Quote: Wigg'n "CCSF when he kicked down the fullbacks throat on the 3rd tackle and they went and kicked a DG?'"


Wigan we’re goosed with a man down and making no yards, it was a throw of the dice to get a 40/20 and in drop goal range, it did backfire and maybe we should have chased the mistake in defence but I don’t think we would have been that much worse off if we had taken 2 more carries.

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Hopefully Keighran can take over and take the pressure off Smith a bit.

There is a good player in there, we have all seen it.

I think the movement back to traditional 6 and 7 with French at 6 has helped; with the added benefit of consistent halfback partner in French and forwards performing well.

If he wants go become a great player, he needs to be doing it week in week out and regardless of the above. Hopefully with experience and confidence he knows how to adapt his game and have an impact regardless.

One thing though, I must be in the absolute minority that really doesn't rate his in play kicking what so ever. Closer to the line he is a lot better but his distance kicking isn't the best in all honesty. The saving grace, and it may be intentional, is despite the amount caught on the full he gets a long duration of the ball in the air so it gives our defence the chance to push up.

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Quote: nathan_rugby "
One thing though, I must be in the absolute minority that really doesn't rate his in play kicking what so ever. Closer to the line he is a lot better but his distance kicking isn't the best in all honesty. The saving grace, and it may be intentional, is despite the amount caught on the full he gets a long duration of the ball in the air so it gives our defence the chance to push up.'"


Goalkicking aside, I'm not sure there's a better kicker in SL right now than Harry Smith. Last night was absolutely outstanding - a great mix of length, height and placement on his kicks.

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Quote: nathan_rugby "Hopefully Keighran can take over and take the pressure off Smith a bit.

There is a good player in there, we have all seen it.

I think the movement back to traditional 6 and 7 with French at 6 has helped; with the added benefit of consistent halfback partner in French and forwards performing well.

If he wants go become a great player, he needs to be doing it week in week out and regardless of the above. Hopefully with experience and confidence he knows how to adapt his game and have an impact regardless.

One thing though, I must be in the absolute minority that really doesn't rate his in play kicking what so ever. Closer to the line he is a lot better but his distance kicking isn't the best in all honesty. The saving grace, and it may be intentional, is despite the amount caught on the full he gets a long duration of the ball in the air so it gives our defence the chance to push up.'"

Not sure what game you watch Nathan but I couldn't agree less with this. He's comfortably the best in game kicker in the league.

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The amount of people stood around me last night everytime Harry kicked the ball that were saying “why’s he doing the same kick everytime when it isn’t working?” Is a joke, that was the game plan, almost like going 12 rounds in boxing, sometimes you have to show that you can drown the opposition out for 80 mins. Every single kick last night was perfect.

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Quote: CobraCraig "Wigan we’re goosed with a man down and making no yards, it was a throw of the dice to get a 40/20 and in drop goal range, it did backfire and maybe we should have chased the mistake in defence but I don’t think we would have been that much worse off if we had taken 2 more carries.'"


been 20 metres further back for the DG, terrible decision

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Quote: CJamesy "The amount of people stood around me last night everytime Harry kicked the ball that were saying “why’s he doing the same kick everytime when it isn’t working?” Is a joke, that was the game plan, almost like going 12 rounds in boxing, sometimes you have to show that you can drown the opposition out for 80 mins. Every single kick last night was perfect.'"


they were excellent kicks in them conditions, Leighs backs just did an amazing job of dealing with them every time, I expected them to drop at least 1 in the rain and so high under the lights too

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Quote: MadDogg "Goalkicking aside, I'm not sure there's a better kicker in SL right now than Harry Smith. Last night was absolutely outstanding - a great mix of length, height and placement on his kicks.'"


Happy to be proven wrong, he was absolutely outstanding in the kicking department on Friday.

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