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Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "Nsemba will not be your breakthrough player.

He really isn’t that good. Delaney has absolutely mullered him everytime they have played and Delaney is no where near the saints first team'"

You're right . Just like you were with Bateman not leaving and Wardle not signing.

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Quote: MattyB "Problem with Hampshire he had people close to him whispering bad advice into his ears too much. Look where it got him.'"


My thoughts on Rocky are Wigan was not a good move for him under Wane.

They Wane style of coaching was very structured and robotic, Rocky was a natural eyes up play what is in front of you player and that didn’t fit into the Wigan system. I think it would be a different story under Peet.

In regards the original question

Player of season - Field
Breakthrough -as others have said kind of needs to be Nsemba
Scapegoat - Powell

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Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "Nsemba will not be your breakthrough player.

He really isn’t that good. Delaney has absolutely mullered him everytime they have played and Delaney is no where near the saints first team'"


Interesting, Delaney is a prop, Nsemba is a 2nd row!
Harvey Hill got the better of Delaney in the Wigan v Saints games last season.

I do think Delaney looks a good prospect though.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Interesting, Delaney is a prop, Nsemba is a 2nd row!
Harvey Hill got the better of Delaney in the Wigan v Saints games last season.

I do think Delaney looks a good prospect though.'"


Brian, what's your thoughts on Ramon Silva? Been with the club coming up to two years I think, obviously a young project signing from London. I've seen next to nothing on himas yet, good enough to break through?

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Re. Catalans, just read their council has shut two of their stands, assuming safety issues, not a great start on top of the fine they picked up last week for crowd trouble

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Player of the season- Marshall
Breakthrough- Nsemba
Scapegoat-Powell

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Quote: MattyB "Brian, what's your thoughts on Ramon Silva? Been with the club coming up to two years I think, obviously a young project signing from London. I've seen next to nothing on himas yet, good enough to break through?'"



Brian will have seen more of him than I have but I personally don’t see him having a future long term at Wigan.

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Quote: jonh "Brian will have seen more of him than I have but I personally don’t see him having a future long term at Wigan.'"

He’s done a year at Wigan, 2023 will be his second.

I’m with Jonh, seems extremely raw.

Will be interesting to see him in preseason , he had a few injuries last year.

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How do we all feel we’ll go with Tommy replacing Briers. He’s got the experience on the field and has done his stint with New Zealand. Not sure what stamp he can put on the team creative wise that he hasn’t as a player

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Quote: jonh "Brian will have seen more of him than I have but I personally don’t see him having a future long term at Wigan.'"


I honestly don't know but haven't been overly impressed with what I have seen, I think this season will tell us al we need to know.

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Quote: WWste "How do we all feel we’ll go with Tommy replacing Briers. He’s got the experience on the field and has done his stint with New Zealand. Not sure what stamp he can put on the team creative wise that he hasn’t as a player'"


I watched a POD a few months ago where Sam Tomkins stated that he thought Tommy could be a head coach already even before it was known that Briers was going. He couldn't have praised him any higher therefore, on the assumption that ST knows what he is talking about I am quite excited that Tommy has joined the coaching team.

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Quote: Stu M "I'm sure that all of you like me are looking forward to the new season so I thought I would try and get some predictions for next year.

To avoid this becoming a Wigan/Saints thread on your own board I will keep it to Wigan only.

So who do you feel will be

Player of the year Cooper
Breakthrough player Byrne. Would be more than happy if Ellis or Mago got this accolade if Byrne doesn't "kick on".
Fans scapegoat - i don't entirely understand why Powell gets so much incessant stick. He is obviously well respected by his team mates and his coaches. I would like him to develop his kicking game and his general attacking threat because as an ex halfback I assume that he has these qualities but doesn't show them as often as I would like. Maybe with Tommy in the coaching setup we may see a more expansive game from Powell in 2023. I'd love him to be player of the year in 2023.

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Quote: Itchy Arsenal "Player of the year Cooper
Breakthrough player Byrne. Would be more than happy if Ellis or Mago got this accolade if Byrne doesn't "kick on".
Fans scapegoat - i don't entirely understand why Powell gets so much incessant stick. He is obviously well respected by his team mates and his coaches. I would like him to develop his kicking game and his general attacking threat because as an ex halfback I assume that he has these qualities but doesn't show them as often as I would like. Maybe with Tommy in the coaching setup we may see a more expansive game from Powell in 2023. I'd love him to be player of the year in 2023.'"


Good shout on Byrne.

I actually felt last year was his breakthrough season, however I do expect him to really kick on again in 23 and be pushing to be recognised with an England call up in time for the World Cup in France.

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Quote: Itchy Arsenal "I watched a POD a few months ago where Sam Tomkins stated that he thought Tommy could be a head coach already even before it was known that Briers was going. He couldn't have praised him any higher therefore, on the assumption that ST knows what he is talking about I am quite excited that Tommy has joined the coaching team.'"


I think it’s a funny time to come in to the coaching squad as our attack last year was great and mainly put down to briers. Tommy is solid and I’m sure it wasn’t a coincidence he got the assistant NZ job. He’ll need to make sure we keep performing and hopefully he can bring that extra for us to push to the final

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Quote: jonh "Good shout on Byrne.

I actually felt last year was his breakthrough season, however I do expect him to really kick on again in 23 and be pushing to be recognised with an England call up in time for the World Cup in France.'"


I think Byrne is progressing quite nicely but I'm quite hopeful that there is still room for improvement.
Havard tends to get most of the plaudits,which on the whole I generally agree with however, Byrne really is a big lad and I'm hoping that 2023 is when he really delivers.
He's got the "quiet enforcer" about him which in today's climate is probably what is required to keep down any potential disciplinary issues.

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