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Quote: Ruddy Duck "The question is " What will be the price of seasons tickets in the 2023 season when the obvious idea next season is to have reasonable prices in order to get as many supporters as possible at games with next season being the 150th Anniversity of the club."

We can only hope that they remain stable after next season!'"


But you don't go anyway? The prices for season tickets are reasonable IMO especially for those who did the auto renewal packages.

And much better priced than the ones at Saints, Wire and Leeds.

https://warringtonwolves.com/membership ... mberships/

https://www.saintsrlfc.com/tickets/memberships/

https://wiganwarriors.com/blog/2021/10/ ... s-on-sale/

https://tickets.therhinos.co.uk/PagesPu ... meAsAway=N
Quote: Ruddy Duck "The question is " What will be the price of seasons tickets in the 2023 season when the obvious idea next season is to have reasonable prices in order to get as many supporters as possible at games with next season being the 150th Anniversity of the club."

We can only hope that they remain stable after next season!'"


But you don't go anyway? The prices for season tickets are reasonable IMO especially for those who did the auto renewal packages.

And much better priced than the ones at Saints, Wire and Leeds.

https://warringtonwolves.com/membership ... mberships/

https://www.saintsrlfc.com/tickets/memberships/

https://wiganwarriors.com/blog/2021/10/ ... s-on-sale/

https://tickets.therhinos.co.uk/PagesPu ... meAsAway=N


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Quote: Rogues Gallery "But you don't go anyway? The prices for season tickets are reasonable IMO especially for those who did the auto renewal packages.

And much better priced than the ones at Saints, Wire and Leeds.

Two games carried over from last season reflected in the price of renewals.

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Do you have to set your account manually to auto renew or should it have happened as default?

I was new to being a season ticket holder last season, i attend most games home an away but always payed on the gate for home games in previous years due to beng unsure of how many games i would attend.

Decided to get a season ticket last season and was going to let it carry over again to this coming season, i assumed auto renewal would be set to default which is why i was confused when i recieved no information previous to this thread.

Looks like it will cost me an extra £35 now for the standard renewal price instead. Only got a letter through the post with the prices on monday, i always thought this stuff would be sorted and announced in advance so people have chance to prepare for their preferred option.

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Quote: BoredWiganer "Do you have to set your account manually to auto renew or should it have happened as default?

I was new to being a season ticket holder last season, i attend most games home an away but always payed on the gate for home games in previous years due to beng unsure of how many games i would attend.

Decided to get a season ticket last season and was going to let it carry over again to this coming season, i assumed auto renewal would be set to default which is why i was confused when i recieved no information previous to this thread.

Looks like it will cost me an extra £35 now for the standard renewal price instead. Only got a letter through the post with the prices on monday, i always thought this stuff would be sorted and announced in advance so people have chance to prepare for their preferred option.'"


I’ve not even had a letter.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "But you don't go anyway? The prices for season tickets are reasonable IMO especially for those who did the auto renewal packages.'"


Nobody disagrees there, but the very good value auto renewal & renewal price is for less than 4,000 ST holders from 2021 - the prices thereafter are hardly going to tempt back the other 4000 who either didnt have the money in 2021, or were bored rigid by the dull rugby that was served up each week.

As I said on another thread, Wiganers want to see their side win and entertain, and until both are served up in equal doses, the stay-away supporters will continue to vote with their feet. The only winning we saw last year was at the start of the season behind closed doors, and the only entertainment on offer was by the likes of Catalan, Warrington & Saints as they tore us apart.

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Quote: muttywhitedog "Nobody disagrees there, but the very good value auto renewal & renewal price is for less than 4,000 ST holders from 2021 - the prices thereafter are hardly going to tempt back the other 4000 who either didnt have the money in 2021, or were bored rigid by the dull rugby that was served up each week.

As I said on another thread, Wiganers want to see their side win and entertain, and until both are served up in equal doses, the stay-away supporters will continue to vote with their feet. The only winning we saw last year was at the start of the season behind closed doors, and the only entertainment on offer was by the likes of Catalan, Warrington & Saints as they tore us apart.'"


So the 4000 ST holders who bought their ST's last year (When there was no guarantee they would see ANY games) shouldn't benefit from having 2 x games carried over to this?
Or
Should the non ST holders who didn't renew get it at the cheaper price even though they didn't pay for the games last year?
Or
As per your last paragraph - Should they give them away until we start winning?
I mean maybe we should introduce a Pay as you win style ticket? Those who want to can pay nothing when we Lose, but double when we win???

I'm sure that over the whole of IL's period (And I'm only using that as he is the current owner who is taking Flak) you would be paying far more based on the double or nothing theory than under the ST prices people have been asked to pay over the last 10+ years.

Unless you want to pay based on some kind of Entertainment - Ometer (Obviously we could serve this up in both doses as you require - Mixed with a Win-Ometer) - Were fans can pay based on how much they enjoyed the game???

Booooo IL

Booooooo KR

Boooooooooo Wane (God how I've missed that one!)

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Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock "I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count" [quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote] Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!" I thanked him and went on my Merry way! RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015! "The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth." Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg



Quote: Rogues Gallery "But you don't go anyway? The prices for season tickets are reasonable IMO especially for those who did the auto renewal packages.

And much better priced than the ones at Saints, Wire and Leeds.


Just done some comparisons (Sent them across)

Wigan's prices stand up very well in most areas in my opinion

In particular the Junior section were kids are free Behind sticks and on sidelines for free until they are 8
Whereas at Saints and Wolfs it's only until 5 - And at Wire they pay between £15&20 under 5

After 8 Wigan Juniors pay the same price behind sticks as on sidelines (Something I criticised direct to Simon Collinson 10 years ago when my kids were that age as the gap was over £100 dearer for juniors to sit on sidelines back then)
Between £30 & £53 - Ridiculously Cheap!!!!

Saints is From 6 and cost £52 behind sticks up to £115 on the sidelines
Wolfs is from 6 and cost approx. £50 standing up to 90 (Silver) or 109(Gold)

Wigan have 2 pricing categories for Youth 18-21 & 22-24 (Great initiative and as my son is 22 can now take advantage of this extended age pricing as it's difficult at that age and your just setting up in life etc).
The younger one is 125 to 202 behind sticks & 125 to 257 sidelines dependant on early bird or full (I think the full price is too high compared to the other clubs and could put people off buying for first time at that age - although early Bird is around 170 sticks and 205 Sideline

Saints only do till 21 and its 157 to 188 Behind Sticks and 176 to 248 (Silver) & 270(Gold) (So actually Wigan not that bad???)
Wolfs is to 23 (Not bad but still younger than Wigan) and is 110 to 177 Standing or 122 to 197 (Silver) & 259 (Gold) (Similar to Wigan)

The OAP has another advantage that it starts at 60 whereas Saints is only 65 (not sure about Wolfs)
But again the prices stand up favourably
Wigan behind Sticks 125 to 177 - Sidelines 130 to 209 (265 Full)
Saints behind sticks 157 to 188 - Sidelines 205 to 248 (Silver) & 270 (Gold)
Wolfs Standing 110 to 177 - Seated 122 to 197 (Silver) & 259(Gold)

So once again IMO our prices stand up favourably & start earlier

Wigans Adult prices behind sticks - 190 to 207 Renewal & 261 to 290 for Early/Full
Saints Adult prices behind sticks - 226 Renewal to 270 Full
Wolfs Adult Prices Standing - 165 Renewal to 225/265 for early full (better than Wigan IMO)

Wigan Sidelines - £195 & 230 Renewal - Up to 290 early & 347 Full
Saints Sidelines - £281 renewal & 301 Early Bird up to 337 (Silver) & 362 (Gold)
Wolfs Seated - £193 Renewal up to Early Bird 258 & 311 Full (Silver) & 383 (Gold

So again dependant on when you buy Wigans stand up pretty well and in fact anyone who sits centre of the sidelines they are very much cheaper as we don't pay more like Saints/Wolfs who have "Gold" seating.

***NOTE***
Clubs do have "Family" Tickets which in turn complicates things more but could for a Family make things cheaper

Top line is this
ALL of the PRICES at ALL of the CLUBS are fantastic value IMO and there are plenty options to suit all Wallets/Price ranges

Wigan IMO on the Whole stand up very well in all areas
But up to the Age of 24 I believe the Wigan Prices/options in all parts of the ground are unbelievable value

0-7 Being free anywhere on the ground - whilst others are up to 5 only and 15/20 at Wolfs - Very Good Wigan
Juniors Being 30 to 53 in ALL parts of the ground - Whilst the others are 50 to 115 on the sidelines - Very Good Wigan
Having Young Adults up to 24 Whilst Saints it's 21 & Wolfs 23 - VERY Good Wigan
And prices from Wigan from 18 to 24 being similar to their counterparts or cheaper in their age groups - But till the age of 24 - Very Good Wigan (Note : there are a couple of scenarios were it could be dearer for a Wigan fan if they aren't an existing ST holder and want to be New at around the 19/20/21 age - so maybe something to consider).

My 2 sons attend maybe 1/3rd of games (19 this year) and 2/3rds of games (22 this year) because of Cricket/Work/Uni commitments but I still buy their tickets because of the renewal prices

What the club have done with the U24's and OAP prices is fantastic IMO

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Quote: Jukesays "Just done some comparisons (Sent them across)

Wigan's prices stand up very well in most areas in my opinion

In particular the Junior section were kids are free Behind sticks and on sidelines for free until they are 8
Whereas at Saints and Wolfs it's only until 5 - And at Wire they pay between £15&20 under 5

After 8 Wigan Juniors pay the same price behind sticks as on sidelines (Something I criticised direct to Simon Collinson 10 years ago when my kids were that age as the gap was over £100 dearer for juniors to sit on sidelines back then)
Between £30 & £53 - Ridiculously Cheap!!!!

Saints is From 6 and cost £52 behind sticks up to £115 on the sidelines
Wolfs is from 6 and cost approx. £50 standing up to 90 (Silver) or 109(Gold)

Wigan have 2 pricing categories for Youth 18-21 & 22-24 (Great initiative and as my son is 22 can now take advantage of this extended age pricing as it's difficult at that age and your just setting up in life etc).
The younger one is 125 to 202 behind sticks & 125 to 257 sidelines dependant on early bird or full (I think the full price is too high compared to the other clubs and could put people off buying for first time at that age - although early Bird is around 170 sticks and 205 Sideline

Saints only do till 21 and its 157 to 188 Behind Sticks and 176 to 248 (Silver) & 270(Gold) (So actually Wigan not that bad???)
Wolfs is to 23 (Not bad but still younger than Wigan) and is 110 to 177 Standing or 122 to 197 (Silver) & 259 (Gold) (Similar to Wigan)

The OAP has another advantage that it starts at 60 whereas Saints is only 65 (not sure about Wolfs)
But again the prices stand up favourably
Wigan behind Sticks 125 to 177 - Sidelines 130 to 209 (265 Full)
Saints behind sticks 157 to 188 - Sidelines 205 to 248 (Silver) & 270 (Gold)
Wolfs Standing 110 to 177 - Seated 122 to 197 (Silver) & 259(Gold)

So once again IMO our prices stand up favourably & start earlier

Wigans Adult prices behind sticks - 190 to 207 Renewal & 261 to 290 for Early/Full
Saints Adult prices behind sticks - 226 Renewal to 270 Full
Wolfs Adult Prices Standing - 165 Renewal to 225/265 for early full (better than Wigan IMO)

Wigan Sidelines - £195 & 230 Renewal - Up to 290 early & 347 Full
Saints Sidelines - £281 renewal & 301 Early Bird up to 337 (Silver) & 362 (Gold)
Wolfs Seated - £193 Renewal up to Early Bird 258 & 311 Full (Silver) & 383 (Gold

So again dependant on when you buy Wigans stand up pretty well and in fact anyone who sits centre of the sidelines they are very much cheaper as we don't pay more like Saints/Wolfs who have "Gold" seating.

***NOTE***
Clubs do have "Family" Tickets which in turn complicates things more but could for a Family make things cheaper

Top line is this
ALL of the PRICES at ALL of the CLUBS are fantastic value IMO and there are plenty options to suit all Wallets/Price ranges

Wigan IMO on the Whole stand up very well in all areas
But up to the Age of 24 I believe the Wigan Prices/options in all parts of the ground are unbelievable value

0-7 Being free anywhere on the ground - whilst others are up to 5 only and 15/20 at Wolfs - Very Good Wigan
Juniors Being 30 to 53 in ALL parts of the ground - Whilst the others are 50 to 115 on the sidelines - Very Good Wigan
Having Young Adults up to 24 Whilst Saints it's 21 & Wolfs 23 - VERY Good Wigan
And prices from Wigan from 18 to 24 being similar to their counterparts or cheaper in their age groups - But till the age of 24 - Very Good Wigan (Note

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I'd echo whats been said earlier.
Great they've carried over the price to deduct two games for ST renewals, but that forgets the 4-6k lapsed ST Holders (above last years 4k covid levels) you would think they would want to entice back.

Full price for an adult is £347 on the sidelines - meaning you're looking at 26.69 per game (/13)! icon_eek.gif Where's the benefit of buying a ST and committing to all games up front for a 31p - £2 saving per game max?!
Even the early bird at £290 is not particularly enticing....Around £22.50 per game, giving you around £6 saving per game. So you're realistically getting just over 2 games free....Miss that with your holidays or game date changes (as most realistically would), theres literally no benefit in getting a ST.

I know latics are generally more desperate for fans, but compare that to a latics ST, which were sold at the rate of approx £10-11 per game.

I applaud them knocking off two games for renewals, but if they were looking at getting ST back up to previous levels the gap between existing (who would probably renew anyway) and new fans is far too much. £230 renewal price should have really been the offer to all new ST purchases before the end of January which would have possibly got us back up to 8k as there'd have been a meaningful incentive to renew.

Big opportunity missed IMO and i would be surprised to see us with more than 5k ST next year & latics style 8k gates, which is going to be pretty crippling for the club.

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Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock "I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count" [quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote] Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!" I thanked him and went on my Merry way! RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015! "The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth." Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg



Quote: DannyT "Are you the new marketing director?'"


Nope
Any other questions???

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Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock "I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count" [quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote] Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!" I thanked him and went on my Merry way! RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015! "The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth." Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg



Quote: afootingmiracle21-12 "I'd echo whats been said earlier.
Great they've carried over the price to deduct two games for ST renewals, but that forgets the 4-6k lapsed ST Holders (above last years 4k covid levels) you would think they would want to entice back.

Full price for an adult is £347 on the sidelines - meaning you're looking at 26.69 per game (/13)!
I agree about the "Full" price
But they are as cheap or cheaper in most areas compared to Saints/Wire and agree "New" prices who don't do the early bird are a bit steep, but no steeper than anyone else's who will have had the same issues. And once on the auto renewal or renewal packages it becomes very cheap imo

As for the Laticd analogy, yes 299 for sidelines on their renewal/early bird package is good and I'm guessing around 13 a game. But after that 369.
But ours at 195 for 15 a game is very good, renewal at 230 17.50 is good. As you say, jumping on the initial new bandwagon at a non early bird price is were it gets steep (but I'd bet they'll sell very few of them as most people will go early one way or another).

Latics junior prices are good, but they as well jump outside the early bird period
And I think our junior prices are better AND go up to 24 as mentioned previously

But

I'm guessing not everyone thinks so

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Quote: Jukesays "Nope
Any other questions???'"


No I was just intrigued at your presentation as the club don’t seem to have put the same effort into their promotion.

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Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock "I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count" [quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote] Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!" I thanked him and went on my Merry way! RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015! "The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth." Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg



Quote: DannyT "No I was just intrigued at your presentation as the club don’t seem to have out the same effort into their promotion.'"


It wasn't a presentation
And I'm not sure the club would be right to show comparison prices of other clubs.

I just did some research on what other clubs charge etc and compared them to ours before commenting
My post was basically showing my working out and the reasoning behind my thoughts

Maybe what I should have done is basically just said the prices are rubbish without putting any thought or logic to my statement? Doesn't appear you get questioned if you do that?

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NRL 17 St.George26-6Dolphins
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Sat 29th Jun
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MINT2024 1 France M8-40England M
WINT2024 1 FRANCE W0-42ENGLAND W
Fri 28th Jun
NRL 17 Canterbury15-14Cronulla
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Leigh 14 264 226 38 11
Castleford 15 238 429 -191 7
Hull FC 15 198 474 -276 4
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