Amazed at how high the figures for West (who was badly treated by the club in the end) and Gregory who started off looking like he was going to be a top coach such a shame it couldn't continue, and how bad the figures went for Betts then especially Millward.

very much so, fantastic

true, but in the monie era in big games there werent many lost, lost a few regal trophies, and prems but not much else. Similar could be said for Wane, seemed to be a big game coach, always seemed to turn up even if we lost.

What, no Graham Lowe who between 1986-1989 was the first overseas Coach appointed by the Gang of Four and laid the foundation for the success of John Monie who during his time as Coach between 1989 and 1993 had some of the best players ever to play for the club and the of winning so many trophies in a period which many supporters regard as one of the greatest in the history of the club.

All hail the gang of four

wasnt that the year the englan ru team won bbc s. p. o. t. y after drawing with nz?

They made the WC final in 91 as well

Possibly, but you only have to look at the way Johnny Wilkinson's status as some kind of legendary megastar has been cemented by a drop-goal to see how the Union boys don't have to do much to win praise.

Graham Lowe was the best coach Wigan have ever had in my view. His victory over Manly was a titanic effort, and should immortalise him as a Wigan great on its own.

great team

What are the first three words of the post?

He did slightly more than drop a goal, but that would happen in most sports. Andy Murray, Lewis Hamilton. I mean Hamilton just drives round in a car that is faster than everyone elses. Be like Usain Bolt celebrating beating Tony Clubb in a race.

Do you not think the player who scores the winning goal for England in a WC would be a hero?

Sadly, as nobody gives a about RL anymore the same probably wouldn't happen with us.

Graham Lowe revolutionised Wigan and the British game
In 6 months he moved Wigan forward 10 years.
He was a very emotional guy who still had a bit of the old style coaching about him (mixed on with the obvious advance australian methods) and there numerous fall outs (not that i blame him for them) with the big names.

Well never k ownif Monie could have done again Lowe did (or vice versa) but I believe Monie just has the edge as he built on what Lowe did, but as a man manager he was superior for me.

I always looked at it like this
For a one off game I would take Lowe
For a multiple year stint id have taken Monie

Would you say that Wane was more like Lowe?