Must be a generation thing. I have known Lockers from school. Not saying i am best mates with him or anything because i am not but when you critique a certain performance (a team one) he is always very constructive in his answer. A model pro who knows how to conduct himself. Future Wigan coach.

Does he want that on a night out when he's with his mates though?

I'm sure Lockers when he's had a few won't stand around why nobodies tell him he's e

Lockers is a top top.bloke though I will agree there.

I grew up playing mostly against Sam but with him for a few representative sides like the old Wigan Service Area and Lancashire at youth level and weirdly enough with him for St Pats U18s at a 0-0 draw away at Golborne, he went for a drop goal that day and the ball just stuck in the mud. Referee gave a KO

He’s always had a cockiness about him. It just came naturally to him. I always found him like you to be quite pleasant mostly but he was what you’d call a f*****g p***k to play against, grubby and giving it the big I am verbals throughout. I don’t think I’ve seen him when he’s had a few cans, once we went our separate and respective clubs at 18 we never kept in contact - not that we were close anyway mind.

Those traits though are what make him a good player IMO. That natural cockiness gives him the confidence to try things that are risky, a natural gob on a stick who isn’t afraid to say what he means and lead his team around the park even if he isn’t captain. I can see why though that some have had a bad experience with hun through those traits.

Agreed

Joel has been charged grade F - Other contrary behaviour MM got 1 game for the high shot and grade F - Other contrary behaviour https://www.superleague.co.uk/article/1 ... liminators

Joel has been charged grade F - Other contrary behaviour MM got 1 game for the high shot and grade F - Other contrary behaviour https://www.superleague.co.uk/article/1 ... liminators

Micky Mac got away with that in my opinion,what is the grade F charge for,Joel's looking at 8 matches which is nothing considering what he did

McIlorum's grade f is presumably for trying to pick up and then dropping an injured player.

All seems fair enough to me. How long should Joel get if found guilty?

In reflection, I haven’t changed my opinion on the high shot. MM must have know he hit Dwyer high, accidentally IMO so picking a player up who has an unknown (at the time) head injury and potential damage to the neck is certainly worth the grade F.

I can’t say i studied it in any detail, not my kind of thing. Did Joel do what is being suggested? At the time I thought he was just trying to hold Myler down but the commentary seemed pretty convinced there was more too it, Myler obviously wasn’t happy either.

The game has made a real effort to improve the processes when it comes to head injuries and to then see a guy cause one and react by dragging the injured player to his feet before dropping him again can’t have gone down well. Micky Mac played his intimidatory role to perfection in every incident bar that one. The fact that he did that and not one Leeds player had even a word with him, showed they wanted no part of him. That’s the issue with playing on the edge though, he gets one thing badly wrong and he’ll be sat down for a number of games now.

The stills don't look good but on the one replay I saw it seemed to happen very fast. I think there's room for doubt.

I don't know what's got into the players this year, the Makinson and Lineham incidents and now this. Has it always gone on and is only now being punished? It's very strange.

I was shocked the Leeds players didn't pile into him after that. Would be disappointed if that happened to a Wigan player and no one did anything.

On redvee they've all decided McIlorum is a coward who wouldn't dare try that on anyone bigger than Dwyer. Not that I'm condoning what he did but I thought that was hilarious.

The lad is a maniac and would happily do it to anybody. Anybody who thinks different would be wise to go back and watch the Magic game against Leeds in 2014 when it all kicked off. Jamie Peacock took the first carry after an all in brawl and Micky Mac tried to smash him in to next week. The way the Leeds players just took that last Friday was a real shock. Somebody has to get in to McIlorum there and show people they’ve got each other’s backs.

I did try to remind them of that on Red Vee, but the majority wouldn't have it. I've never seen Mickey Mac back down ever.

There’s a surprise There are some players who do pick on small blokes and hide when things heat up (LMS, Clubb and Ryan Bailey spring to mind straight away) but Micky Mac couldn’t be any further from that. Running battles with Peacock and Warea-Hargreaves spring to mind. One thing we can’t forget also is that Micky Mac is a relatively small bloke himself. He’s pound for pound the most brutal player I’ve seen. The big Leeds forwards who didn’t build pluck up the courage to stick up for Brad Dwyer last Friday are proof of that.