He also took over fielding the kicks after Bobby dropped a couple real leaders game tonight

Had a mare with those kicks Bibby but fair play to him and his response. He put some crunching tackles in and worked hard.

Yes he didn't hide after the drops a few good drives and tackles did well to come back from them

Zak was by far our best player tonight. He’s consistently brilliant and you can see him gee’ing up the lads, constantly talking and willing to put himself on the line. He’s an outstanding player IMO and could be a future captain.

Agree he had a very good game today, less so about the season as a whole. Massively disagree about making him captain, based on what we know about him at least. If he was a long time removed from any off field idiocy then fair enough.

I thought Greenwood played well tonight.

It was a great change to not have to suffer Isa killing our attack and offering zero threat with ball in hand.

Guess for some (not you) Greenwood falls into that Sutton, Williams category. He's obviously a very good player, but because he's not running around like a headless chicken he's had his cards marked.

For me he steps up on the field both vocally and in performance when it gets tough.

Maybe his off field antics could also be considered experience.

All leaders need experience positive and negative.

Fan of the lad long before he came to Wigan,always a player I wanted the club to sign so glad hes here, while I think Powell will be next captain Hardaker would suit the job just as well.

He did play well for sure, it’s just that it always feels like I’m sat there thinking ‘if only he had more aggression’ ‘if only he could push himself through the pain barrier’ and so on. I’ve said before though if he had all those attributes on top of his natural size and ability, you’d have one of the worlds best back rowers on your hands and it’s unlikely he’d be playing at Wigan. He makes my best 17 for sure and I still think he could have a good future here if he pushes hard enough for it.

If you think Greenwood offers more than Isa then I genuinely wonder what you are watching.

I would say Isa had a tough night tonight playing out of position and against a lad who was outstanding at times in King, but I’m not sure what Greenwood did to justify him having a good game.

I’d say he was better than normal but still I wouldn’t say he had a good game.

At least he came back on after the head knock - I almost choked on my beer when he reappeared. Thought he'd be in ICU for the next week.

You wouldn't say he had a good game, because you don't like rate him.

Greenwood offers a threat in attack and Isa doesn't- it's as simple as that. He offers a plan B when plan A isn't working, or when you need that natural size.

You're whole approach seems to just be narrowed down to effort. You'd happily carry a limited player like Isa because he's tough as teak, but won't give Greenwood the time of day because he isn't.

King for me has really progressed into a decent player.
Pretty aggressive and always looking to offload.
A very difficult opponent for Isa particularly as he hasn't played centre for quite a while.

For me Greenwood "trundles" in too much. For such a big guy he doesn't make use of his size and weight.
He's playing better than last season but that is a very low bar as a comparator

and fair play to Hardaker for not losing his rag when Austin tried to rip his head off

Sadly some players don't have that mind set, but it doesn't mean they are bad players - they just won't ever be as good as they could be. Greenwood is that player.

I look at Isa and also think 'if only'. If only he was a bit bigger, if only he could transfer all that effort into something actually dangerous to the opposition. He just doesn't make an impact, no matter how much we love his attitude. Greenwood makes an impact near the line, which is at least something.

A good big one, will always beat a good little one as they say.