I think we expect him to turn up and do the job but today he definitely didn't

Your hometown club is a big pull though.

Roby didn't leave for the NRL, nor did Lockers. Would SW coach another club? He didn't even want to play for another club.

Of course we're a bigger pull than Salford but he is quite literally a legend there.

How is it a lack of vision? I'm not saying don't try to get him. I'm saying I'm not convinced he would come. He's in a great position there, massively over performing with his home town team. He could not win another game all year and still be safe as well.

Three very different examples than Watson moving to us. To start off all three were at larger clubs and had every chance of achieving everything they wanted in the game. Roby and Lockers might not have wanted to go to the other side of the world, but I'm sure they wanted a chance to be consistently successful.

Would Wane coach another SL club? Probably not as he's already sat at the top of the tree. He'd definitely coach an NRL club tho as that's the next step.

I'm genuinely rooting for Watson here btw. Imo he's got two choices - continue to try the same as he is I.e overachieving, but having to see guys like Hastings, Bibby, Jones, Evalds, Dudson move on. Or go to a top side and potentially unlock a decade of competing at the top. After that he might get snapped up for a top NRL job and continue to grow that way.

It's harsh, but maintaining Salford as a top team is a hell of a lot more hard work than it seems as the cards are stacked against him.

As Grimmy says, he doesn't have to keep them as a top team.

Because it's the same tunnel vision that many of our fans have and what's lead to us being just another team.

Every time a fan suggests a big name signing, dares to talk about grand plans for the future or criticises a limited ability player you can bet your bottom dollar certain fans will pop up and shoot them down. It's either why would x come to us, we shouldn't risk doing Y or every team needs a Isa type player.

There's a serious lack of wanting to us be truly great again.

As I've said in a previous post - Watson will have to pull the proverbial rabbit out of the hat every year to maintain his success. He might be ok with that glass ceiling, who knows.

All I know is the challenge and potential rewards of being the head coach at Wigan, Saints or Leeds are absolutely life changing.

Well if he thinks that way and is happy with that, then good luck to him - it's not the Wigan way so we won't have lost out.

What is the wigan way? From reading some of your comments you still seem to think it's buy whoever we can and hell to the consequences like in the early 90s.

Big name, international Aussies no longer want to come here unless it's for a fortune and in a salary capped sport you need someone such as Isa who will pull his tripe out for 80 minutes for very little pay. The days of having the entire GB pack are long gone.

The Wigan is way is all about demanding the absolute best, setting the highest standards and winning stuff. Isa busts a gut and is a decent and likeable guy, but so is Smithies as so will Bateman + more next year. We've got too many average, run of the mill players and fans just seem to accept it. Hank, Bibby, Isa, Marshall, Clubb all give us depth when in reality we need that extra quality.

I'll fully lay my cards out on the table and say that I think that current SC level is wrong. It's weakened us to position where we just feed the NRL and that's not good enough for me.

I'll ask you the same question - what does the Wigan way mean to you? What do you want for the club?

I’ve been saying for a while that we should snap Watson up before another club does.
However, I don’t lay all the blame at Lam’s door.
It was a match today in which we needed fit experienced forwards. Our young forwards will be great in about three years time. I can’t believe that we still have Flower, Clubb and O’Loughlin in the first team squad. Add George Burgess to these three and we can see why our pack gets beaten.
I don’t know how much these four players are on but if they all retired I’d expect we’d have about £600,000
to spend on some real class.
Our backs are excellent but our pack has no go forward.

Like every fan, I want to win trophies and that's why I'm as ed off as the rest of us right now, but if we replace these run of the mill players as you call them with extra quality we become what we were in the 2nd reign of Uncle Mo. A decent 1-13 and then f*** all else.

In this modern day.....that doesn't win trophies.

I do agree with you on the SC level though. We have dragged the top teams down to the same level as the poorer teams rather than challenged them to get better.

As good as Saints were last year, they get hammered by their 2006 side every single time.

There is nothing to say they haven't tried and as Grimmy says he just doesn't want to go

You do realise I have absolutely no control over who we sign don't you? I also said I would try to sign him. I'm just more realistic, I understand that it's not the 80s anymore where we can just sign whoever we want.

Is this useless gawp under contract for 2021 or can we let him go at the end of the year?
(Either way, I fully expect him to remain into 2021 by the way)

Lam said last week or so that he didn't have a contract with us for 2021.