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Hastings is a world class half back - we look so much better with him directing the team around the park. I remember thinking at the Hull game how good it was going to be to watch him grow into this team throughout the season and really hit top form in the summer. Sadly we've ended up with a disrupted and curtailed season in which we cant attend games and it's unlikely that we'll ever see Hastings or the team as a whole play to its full potential as a result.

I'm not convinced that Leuluai or Smith are ideal partners for him - ideally he would be playing with a more explosive line-breaker. Him and Williams together would have been awesome.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: Rogues Gallery "Yes they are very important, he needs to improve dramatically. It started before he even got here with Hastings. The pitchforks came out for him supposedly reneging on his contract during the off season, then when it proved to be false rumours people held it against him anyway.

No one will ever beat Gelling as the undisputed king of Wigan scapegoats. I swear I heard someone shout "Pull your bloody finger out Gelling!" upon the opening kick off of a game, which went to the opposite side to which he was stood.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Yes they are very important, he needs to improve dramatically.
Where have I said he's a scapegoat??
French or Hastings?
If he is so good so far why isn't he higher in the mos ?

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Quote: Itchy Arsenal "Where have I said he's a scapegoat??
French or Hastings?
If he is so good so far why isn't he higher in the mos ?'"


He's in the top 10 along with three other Wigan players, so the points have been spread about. We're the only team with four in the top 10.

My criticism of him this year is that he has been caught in possession a few times on the 4th tackle which limits the kicking option on the 5th leaving Harry Smith as our only kicker.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "He's in the top 10 along with three other Wigan players, so the points have been spread about. We're the only team with four in the top 10.

My criticism of him this year is that he has been caught in possession a few times on the 4th tackle which limits the kicking option on the 5th leaving Harry Smith as our only kicker.'"


So he can improve then?
That’s all I’m saying.

Not sure why making a point of suggesting a player could do with improvement raises such angst.

If I had to pick any halfback in SL I’d pick Hastings so I’m not criticising the guy just stating that we haven’t seen the best of him yet and I’d like to see it.

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It’s probably really encouraging that he’s not hit top form because even at what I’d say has been 60/70% of his best, he’s probably been one of the best players in the league. He’s going to be so important to our chances of winning anything this season. If he hits his top form we can compete for everything. I’ve said on here before I think he’s a strange bloke and he’s clearly not as settled here as he was at Salford but he’s a competitor and I have no problems over the effort he’s throwing in to games.

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I just came here to say, Itchy has a point there, and then read NK's post, and he's also right. Hastings is certainly busy, and takes the ball into contact, but has still offered us a decent haul in attack, and he defends well. I do think he's a good enough player to show us a little more; let's hope it comes.

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I think Hastings has been excellent this year but maybe not as good as last season. Every player seems to play better at Salford!

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J.Burgess in. Is Manfredi dropped or injured?

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Quote: Grimmy "J.Burgess in. Is Manfredi dropped or injured?'"


Out on compassionate grounds club said on Twitter.

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Ben Flower been using his enforced offseason well.

Looks to have added some significant gains on the scales and so far that has enhanced his performance.

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George Burgess gone off just six minutes into the second half. Was stopped dead in his tracks with his first carry in the second half. Weak in the tackle, slow to get back into the line and doesn’t seem right. I really hope he comes good but, at the moment, he is a downright liability.

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Quote: Darwen Warrior "George Burgess gone off just six minutes into the second half. Was stopped dead in his tracks with his first carry in the second half. Weak in the tackle, slow to get back into the line and doesn’t seem right. I really hope he comes good but, at the moment, he is a downright liability.'"



Sadly I agree.

Thought all our middles were hit and miss.

Bullock made some big contributions but also was anonymous at times. Flower put himself about, we just lacked a bit of consistency in that department.

How Faz didn’t get MOTM is beyond me.

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If I’ve seen a world class player who sadly seems to get billed as a ten a penny second rower like Faz does, I cannot think of them. The guys a freak, an absolute gem of a player and we should be shouting his name from the rooftops.

What a player. I won’t rest easy watching rugby league until he gets the bulling up he warrants. I love James Roby, he’s been a sensational player and he rightfully gets talked of as one of the best. Faz is the second row version and he deserves that reputation but it seems to allude him and I don’t get it.

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