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I warned two months ago that about sport getting involved in politics and was attacked by the usuual suspects.

You now have a situation where sports all over the western world are kneeling in solidarity with a marxist organistion which in itself is openly racist, just research some of the stuff that has come out of the BLM leaders mouths. If you want to support BLM, fine, thats your choice but this should be nowhere near sport, join the mobs defacing war memorials and pulling down historic statues if thats your thing.

Talking to a couple in their late seventies the other day that have been friends of the family for years. They have been Wigan season ticket holders and Rugby League nuts for decades. It was actually them that got me going to games in the 80s, they used to take me when i was a teenager. They are disgusted by whats taking place and said they will not put another penny into the game. These are people that i expected would be at games until they could no longer physically manage to get there. They are some of the nicest people you could wish to meet and will put themselves out to do anything for anybody, but go ahead, call them racists with your college view of the world.

As i said weeks ago, this should never of been allowed to creep into sport. Fair play to IF and others that are not afraid to break the trend.

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Whilst there is, and never could be, any argument with the statement "Black Lives Matter", there is a problem with the organizing body, whose leaders are heavily linked to marxist organizations. You can uncover this with only a little digging. So while the cause is correct, the organisation is a bit iffy.... In my opinion, and that thats not worth much icon_smile.gif

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Quote: The_Enforcer " blaaaaaah'"


Not going to a game or enjoying a sport you've enjoyed for decades just because some people did something you don't like dumbest thing I've read so far on this thread (and there's a lot of dumb in this thread)

Theres a lot of people in their 70s/80 that are a product of their time and therefor wouldnt know racism if it slapped them in the face. I'm all for them staying away to be honest. The game won't miss them

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My, my. Lots of Trump supporting conspiracy theorists around today. I'd suggest a trip back to '50s America & chum up with your pal McCarthy.

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Quote: Angelus "Not going to a game or enjoying a sport you've enjoyed for decades just because some people did something you don't like dumbest thing I've read so far on this thread (and there's a lot of dumb in this thread)

Theres a lot of people in their 70s/80 that are a product of their time and therefor wouldnt know racism if it slapped them in the face. I'm all for them staying away to be honest. The game won't miss them'"


Were those same people not bothered about the treatment of Boston in the 50's and 60's, or the likes of Gill, Hanley and Offiah etc in the 80's and 90's.
It was only through the intervention of sportsmen that South Africa were expelled from world sport until they sorted themselves out.

However I don't think players should automatically take the knee, they should be allowed to use their own judgement, just as Brian Carney chose to not sing God save the Queen.

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Quote: Angelus "Not going to a game or enjoying a sport you've enjoyed for decades just because some people did something you don't like dumbest thing I've read so far on this thread (and there's a lot of dumb in this thread)

Theres a lot of people in their 70s/80 that are a product of their time and therefor wouldnt know racism if it slapped them in the face. I'm all for them staying away to be honest. The game won't miss them'"


Perhaps they are not going to the game because they do not want to put money in the pockets of players that use their position to promote a highly political organisation that they disagree with?

Your last paragraph says more about you and your generation than it does people in their 70/80s.

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Quote: CyberPieMan "My, my. Lots of Trump supporting conspiracy theorists around today. I'd suggest a trip back to '50s America & chum up with your pal McCarthy.'"


Trump has done more for the black community in 3 and half years years than all previous Presidents of the last 3 decades combined but lets blame Trump for RL supporters in the UK not wanting to see players kneeling in support of a marxist organisation.

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Quote: Angelus "Not going to a game or enjoying a sport you've enjoyed for decades just because some people did something you don't like dumbest thing I've read so far on this thread (and there's a lot of dumb in this thread)

Theres a lot of people in their 70s/80 that are a product of their time and therefor wouldnt know racism if it slapped them in the face. I'm all for them staying away to be honest. The game won't miss them'"


When do players stop taking the knee?
What actual event should signify that this should cease?

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Quote: The_Enforcer "Trump has done more for the black community in 3 and half years years than all previous Presidents of the last 3 decades combined but lets blame Trump for RL supporters in the UK not wanting to see players kneeling in support of a marxist organisation.'"


Any evidence for this or are you just going to echo just anything the orange moron says? As always this garbage has been debunked many times. You need to read some fact-checking.

African-American unemployment rate has been dropping since 2010/2011.
Poverty has been declining since 2013.
Etc.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/us/p ... check.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... e-lincoln/
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/ar ... omic-gains
Quote: The_Enforcer "Trump has done more for the black community in 3 and half years years than all previous Presidents of the last 3 decades combined but lets blame Trump for RL supporters in the UK not wanting to see players kneeling in support of a marxist organisation.'"


Any evidence for this or are you just going to echo just anything the orange moron says? As always this garbage has been debunked many times. You need to read some fact-checking.

African-American unemployment rate has been dropping since 2010/2011.
Poverty has been declining since 2013.
Etc.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/us/p ... check.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... e-lincoln/
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/ar ... omic-gains


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"CyberPieMan"]My, my. Lots of Trump supporting conspiracy theorists around today. I'd suggest a trip back to '50s America & chum up with your pal McCarthy.'"
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McCarthyism is alive and well on all forms of social media driven by predominantly Identity Politics which is for me poisoning any possible chance of balanced debate. This new religion does not allow any alternative nor any semblance of forgiveness to anyone who states any form of disagreement or who will not accept the new gospel

Identity Politics developed by academic's with child like intelligence and accepted by academic lightweights of little intellectual thought. Like any religion it's rules are overly simple for complex issues and needs people of simple minds to accept the religious laws laid down by the high priests.

I'm far from being an academic but when I hear, see and smell bull I know that it is bull. Identity Politics is just regurgitated bull straight from the likes of The Spanish Inquisition or McCarthyism.

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Quote: Wigg'n "Any evidence for this or are you just going to echo just anything the orange moron says? As always this garbage has been debunked many times. You need to read some fact-checking.

African-American unemployment rate has been dropping since 2010/2011.
Poverty has been declining since 2013.
Etc.


Lowest black unemployment in history. The fact that you would try to deny Trump any credit for an HISTORIC achievement under his Presidency, tells its own story.

First Step Act, something past Presidents promised at election time to get the black vote and failed to deliver once they were in office.

Funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities, his administration in one year alone appropriated more money to HBCUs than any other president, and he has taken steps to establish the Presidential Board of Advisors on HBCUs, as requested by community leaders.

Opportunity Zones helping put a priority on rebuilding and bettering many African American communities that have long been forgotten under prior administrations.

If any other President had done a fraction of this, he would be hailed as the next MLK.

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To kneel means you are subservient, not equal.

Politics and sport shouldn't mix.

I will be boycotting the club from now on until either the club or players show some backbone and not kneel and just get on with playing rugby, or until every member of yesterdays squad that knelt leaves the club. I've got strong views on the subject but I'll refrain from saying them because this is a 'Rugby League' forum and politics and sport should not mix.

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Quote: CyberPieMan "My, my. Lots of Trump supporting conspiracy theorists around today. I'd suggest a trip back to '50s America & chum up with your pal McCarthy.'"


Or back to the the post war USSR with good old Joseph Stalin.

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Quote: Itchy Arsenal ""CyberPieMan"]My, my. Lots of Trump supporting conspiracy theorists around today. I'd suggest a trip back to '50s America & chum up with your pal McCarthy.'"


McCarthyism is alive and well on all forms of social media driven by predominantly Identity Politics which is for me poisoning any possible chance of balanced debate. This new religion does not allow any alternative nor any semblance of forgiveness to anyone who states any form of disagreement or who will not accept the new gospel

Identity Politics developed by academic's with child like intelligence and accepted by academic lightweights of little intellectual thought. Like any religion it's rules are overly simple for complex issues and needs people of simple minds to accept the religious laws laid down by the high priests.

I'm far from being an academic but when I hear, see and smell bull I know that it is bull. Identity Politics is just regurgitated bull straight from the likes of The Spanish Inquisition or McCarthyism.'"
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Spot on, but the left don't like reason and logic.

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