No it's either finish 12 points clear of relegation this season, or start next season in L1 on -12.

Not technically.

At the end of the season if Latics are in the bottom 3 they go down and start on -12.

If they're outside the bottom 3 then a 12 point deduction is applied which could see them relegated, but there would be no deduction next season.

thats what he said but you explained it better

Big Dave may help out... https://twitter.com/lisanandy/status/12 ... 91328?s=20

Big Dave may help out... https://twitter.com/lisanandy/status/12 ... 91328?s=20

I'm not a fan of theirs but I hope they survive. I've worked in Wigan for 16 years and know about the rivalry between the two clubs. The mood on here is mainly one of sympathy but I have to say I'm not sure it would be the same if the situation was reversed.

It wouldn't. They have a very very bitter section of fans aged around 45-65 who have a vendetta against Maurice Lindsay which has transcended onto bashing the club. They would be dancing on the street if it was us. Sod em

Yes reading it back it was. On first glance it was lose 12 points or don't.

I’m not celebrating that they are in this position and on the other hand I don’t have any sympathy either. I don’t like football full stop so makes no difference to me.

Thats how i see it Hatty. It was only a matter of time before football went pop. That much money on wages and merchandise based on nothing but guesswork and hope. It isn't sustainable, not even for the likes of Man City and Chelsea when the money is pulled from under them. They will soon disappear.

There is always animosity from both sides but deep down everyone surely realises in a small town like ours, with very little going for it, that both clubs are mutually beneficial. It’s easy to forget the rugby situation isn’t exactly clear cut either. I’ve yet to see in any sport a new owner take 4 weeks to basically shut down a club in such a way after the governing body gives them the ok to take over.

Put the boot on the other foot and what do you think they would be saying? Exactly, so no need for sympathy towards them. It is what it is. Move on.

There's no doubt that a few obsessive loudmouths who've taken it on themselves to speak for the whole of the Latics fanbase would be delighted if this was us going under. But in truth, we really don't want to see them founder. I can't stand football - I find no entertainment value in it at all, and I certainly have no inclination to support the Latics just because they happen to represent the town of my birth (those few gobby fans have put paid to any chance of that).

But surely it's far better if the stadium costs are shared equally between two reasonably successful clubs? Wouldn't it be a massive strain on us if we had to shoulder the bulk of it?

It’s not shared equally now, we just pay as per our tenancy agreement.

So what about those of us with a foot in both camps? Both sides are full of selfish and pathetic individuals who crave negativity and almost feed off it, hoping for disaster of the other rather more than success of their own. It’s what’s always embarrassed me about being from this town.

Que sera sera