Can’t under estimate the importance of Matty Peet even just from an extra support unit for Lam - he can now focus on his core strengths and delegate defence to Peet. I’m wondering what Winder offers?!

The players all seem to be playing with smiles on the face which is down to Adrian Lam surely

You could speculate Cas forced us into a bit of a desperate measure with that. We had been pinned on our line for a few sets and could not get out. A kick on the 4th wouldn't have been a bad tactic to take the play down the pitch but I didn't see that coming. The crowd liked it and had it come off it would have brought the house down.

Even though it didn't, it still relieved the pressure a bit.

We have pace to burn so kicks for the wingers are a good idea every now and again. One of the big criticisms of the Wane era was how predictable we were. That seems to have changed.

I agree, last week against Catalans Zak put up two high kicks which caused mass confusion. The first gave way to French's 2nd Try (let's ignore Sarginson offside BRW) and the second was from a kick off which bounced and went dead with ball back to us.

If we could just put balls into space and make their defenders turn around we would be do much better for it (a good deep kick and chase is worth two tackles IMO).

I'm struggling to see how turning over the ball about 30m from our line is relieving pressure. If they score there then we're only a score ahead and they have the momentum.

I get what you and JohnH are saying about creativity and giving players a bit of scope to try things though, and I was bloody bored under Wane. If it was a deeper kick for French to chase I'd be more understanding, Burgess isn't in the kind of form to be giving him a low percentage play to try IMO. We need to get the ball in French's hands more, in space ideally.

I think we are all forgetting the influence of Alex Murphy and Graeme West have had on the team that's carried forward to last night...

Something that Blake Green used to do all the time! It’s a perfect play when we are 30/40 from our own line, struggling for yards and the opposition isn’t expecting it.

I can’t believe we don’t do more high kicks out wide to Burgess on the oppositions line either.

From memory I thought it was the 5th? But even so IMO the way Cas were flying off the line it was proving difficult just to get a kick away never mind get any depth on it (we were inside our own 20).
Whilst a brave play i think it was an ok option as turning the ball over with a scrum and a breather with a set defence may have been the better option than a rushed weak kick with the FB or wingers catching it on their 40 and possibly making it back to our 40 but with an unorganised defence.

The only thing wrong IMO is geaorge should have kicked it 10/15 yards further ahead and I'm sure Budgie would have made it and if he didn't the scrum would have been up past the 40

It wasn’t the last tackle. I remember thinking at the time Wane would kill him.

There are several players who developed at the club under Wane so of course some Wan's influence is still there. Lam has given licence to the players to express themselves in some parts of the field. The fact that Wigan's defence has improved of late and that the backs were running through brick walls again might actually be the influence of John Winder. Remember that he was retained to provide some continuity.

Lam’s biggest influence on an individual has been on Sam Powell. He’s so much better now he’s mixing his game up and isn’t predictable. I thought he was brilliant last night in his control of the game, with his defensive efforts being backed up by a lovely kicking game.

"If I have seen further it is because I am standing on the shoulders of giants" as Sir Isaac Newton once said to me one night in Pemps.

Which was another way of saying "Actually, i pinched other people's ideas"..

A lot to thank Brian Noble for, Noble built the spine of the team and others inherited and added to it

Genuinely can’t tell if that’s sarcasm or not

The change in form coincided with Matty peet returning to the club as defense coach.

He is the future Wigan head coach