I fear for us over the next four games to be honest.

Hull FC away and Cas Away are tough, tough fixtures at the best of times. We think Wakey's forward's pummelled our small men tonight, look at the size of Hull's.

On the back of two further defeats I would fear our long awaiting home game versus Leeds (on a Thursday night as well) would possibly attract a more sub-standard crowd than we've seen already this season.

Following that Wire come over to ours and we could really be on our feet by then.

Well Wane didn't walk after the stuffing at Wakefield last season so he won't walk after we actually scored.
As bad as anything last season, this is going to be a very long month.
We need to do what Saints did but has IL got the bottle to do it.

I was going to post this exact sentiment - and that’s coming from a very anti Wane poster in myself.

We just wouldn’t improve, if anything we’d be worse off. I’d be shocked if IL or SW for that matter decided to end the relationship now.

We’ve been written off before and gone on to win it. I’m not saying we will do such a feat but if SW has brought anything to the table, he’s brought a sterdy never say die attitude to the club.

More than ever the club needs the fans support to rally around them. I appreciate it’s difficult when the play is as atrocious as it has been since Magic.

I feel the next game is either the turning point for the season, or the definitive final nail in the coffin. One thing is for sure; I wouldn’t want to be a Wigan player at Orrell tomorrow!

It's not SW fault that 2 of his team unsettle the club with antics.
Some things can effect a team even if it's not used as an excuse.
Wigan's 1st loss to Warrington was because they got off a round the globe journey 4 days prior.
SW never used it as an excuse.

You cannot see the woods for the trees if you are calling for SW to go.

The unsettling of the team and only 4 days to prepare for a tough away game is a recipe for a defeat....and it's just happened again at Wakefield!

What Wigan need is full week to prep for Hull, win or lose, Wigan will be right for Leeds and probably win every game before the split, although I hope I'm wrong about beating Warrington.

You don't know if anything would change unless you try it. What is clear is Wane will continue to make the same idiotic decisions as he has in the past such as religiously playing Powell at 7 and sticking Escare on for 10 minutes as if that is going to make a difference. Wane was past his sell by date last season and why does he deserve to stay to the end of the season? This is a RL club not a charitable institution.

A club in turmoil faces a five day turnaround missing 3 starting props and a starting second rower and loses away to an opponent with the biggest pack (?) in the comp that is coming off an extra week's rest in the middle of the season. And still we have people blaming Powell......

Isa was no help to Bateman what's so ever Isa wants dropping total rubbish.

Not based on last night but based on the whole season. Powell is the worst player I’ve seen wearing 7 for Wigan for a very long time.

Three weeks ago we were talking about how good this player was or how well that one was playing. We were saying how good the rugby had been, how aggressive we were, how we’d dominated one of the leagues better packs and ended Warringtons long unbeaten run.

You do not become a bad side overnight! The players look to be reeling from the news that their coach (for some pretty much the only coach they’ve ever had for 10+ years) is leaving and maybe they’re angry as to the reasons why (guesswork but something doesn’t feel right). I expect the players to galvanise and fight back and give the Grand Final a real tilt.

Keep the faith.

Every half will look pants behind a beaten pack. Therein lies the problem.
Your pack is busted, you were on the threshold of moving into pole position before that.
How can you justify blaming Powell?

I’m not just blaming Powell but he hasn’t created a single try that I can recall all season. This includes when our pack has dominated. When looking to strengthen, 7 is without doubt the priority

I don’t blame Powell in the slightest, personally I feel quite sorry for him. The lad is a hooker, an honest working hooker and he’s being hung out to dry at scrum half.

As I say above we need to keep our chins up because there’s everything to play for but part of any master plan must include a new partner for Williams (who looked shackled again then free as a bird and happy to influence things for the last 15/20 mins when the game was up).

I agree to an extent, but there’s an assumption in there that he can turn it around.

It’s obvious by now that Wanes resignation was as much a shock to the players as it was for the rest of us. When I heard, my first thought was that the players, especially those who are leaving, would be extra-motivated to win everything for him, that’s what normally happens at the end of an era.

Instead they’ve gone into a tailspin either because the players are upset with their coach because he’s leaving or they’re unhappy with the club because of something to do with the manner of his leaving. If it’s the first one, we might as well get shut now because he’s lost the dresssing room. In the second case, it won’t matter much whether he stays or not unless he’s whining about his treatment to the players.

In either case, it looks a lot like sulking on the part of the players, which reflects very poorly on their professionalism.

No question about it. You'll need a whole new spine. Letting Sam go seems a massive gulf to correct now, had he stayed at least they'd be a footing.
As much as I hate the style of Wigan under him....I'd be looking to get McGuire back to install those heavy effective structures.
My word two props and two new halfbacks are a critical must for 2019.

Whoever takes over...I asked the question no one dared answer last week.
Would you except a meagre 2019, or much of it, as a season of transition?

Spot on this but even at hooker I don’t think he’s good enough to be our starting 9. He’s usually sound defensively but that’s it. With the ball, he offers nothing and lacks pace. I’d keep him as a utility squad player to cover injuries but nothing more.