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8570.jpg Hull KR Chairman Neil Hudgell, August 26th, 2014 said..
"In fact, the days of us signing any players from across the river are over. Our fans are loyal, passionate and only interested in one club. Taking players from our nearest rivals doesn't fit in with that brief.":8570.jpg |
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| Quote: Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy "Probably because we have a rumours thread at the top of the board and it was already being discussed widely in there.'"
Okay, thanks.
Perhaps it might have been better had a mod replied suggesting as much then locking it, at least I'd have known then.
No mischief intended, never thought I'd see the day McIlorum wore anything but a Wigan shirt at club level, I'm amazed.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "That’s the key point for me.
If several clubs were interested then that tells its own tale. On the other hand I presume we’ve had no interest in Leuluai or Powell and clearly none in the likes of Nuuausala or Tautai so we’re sat here making do.
Phil Wilkinson says we were very close to the cap with Micky Mac but we do now have some room so it surprises me a little that he’s been let go. Micky Mac has already hinted it was Wigan who told him he was leaving and not the other way round.'"
If Phil Wilkinson is right then that destroys IL's reputation as some sort of financial wizard because he's reduced the club to having to offload one of its best players due to obviously paying far too many average players far too much money. Instead of being pleased with his return to form it's been used as a big "for sale" sign (though I know we let him leave for free, you get the point) and is left having to convince the fans to accept second best.
Quote: NickyKiss "The ideal scenario now is that Ganson bangs the door down and becomes the creative hooker many have been crying out for but I’d have rather seen him do that in tandem with a tough nugget of a hooker like Micky Mac.'"
The way MM played for Ireland suggests the only reason he wasn't more creative at Wigan was he was told not to be. Wane will have Powell, Ganson and TL playing the same way.
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| How come wigan knew about Gelling and it would now appear Mcilorum quite sometime before Christmas yet decide to only publicise this once the season ticket deadline had passed. Yet again the fans are treated like fools.
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| Sad about Gelling, think he’s a better centre than Sarginson. But this is the risk you take with overseas players - 6 years has been a good stint.
Some may disagree but I feel the decision on McIlorum was correct.
Despite a good showing in the World Cup, his performance at Wigan was quite average. Only doing 20min stints.
His contract was up after this year, think the club had no interest in giving him a new deal at age 30. So out of respect let him go find a good 2 year deal.
Better let him go a season too soon that a season too late.
Going forward I like the look of this spine compared to last year
1.) Escare
6.) Williams
7.) STomkins
9.) Lealuai
13.) Lockers
14.) Powell
Back up - Mullen, Sharrocks, Gason
Great servant to Wigan though Micky, one of the toughest S.O.Bs to ever wear the shirt. His try in the 2013 grand final and his performance against Leeds at the Magic in 2014 will always be remembered by me.
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| NSW!!!!
Get with the program, you are ONLY suppose to post criticism, of absolutely anything that happens..
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| I would have shone at hooker in the World Cup against Wales , PNG and Italy
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| McIlorum has been at the club for so long that he's almost certainly one of our highest earners. His form over the last few years now probably hasn't been good enough to justify such a huge chunk of the salary cap going to him when we have several other options at hooker.
We played no better with McIlorum at hooker than with Powell. I know Powell has his issue but last year they were both inconsistent, rarely very good but when one played well the other didn't, and it often changed from week to week. I think Powell plays better when starting at hooker (as quite a few 9's do) rather than coming off the bench so I reckon we'll see more from him this year. Hopefully Leuluai does better at hooker than at scrum half. When he played hooker for us the last time round he was outstanding but it remains to be seen whether he's still good enough for Super League.
What I'm looking forward to more is the chance of Ganson breaking through. He's an exceptional hooker, did really well when he was given a chance in the first team and is such a clever player that he's exactly the sort of hooker we need. People say that McIlorum was stifled by Wigan's attacking play but Ganson was more effective in attack playing in the same system.
Powell should be more solid defensively. Last year must surely have busted the myth about McIlorum being so strong defensively. He missed tackles far too often and was exposed frequently as a result, both playing for Wigan and for Ireland in the world cup. Powell doesn't hit anywhere near as hard but his defence is more composed and disciplined.
Perhaps McIlorum will be a huge success at Catalans. It wouldn't surprise me but I just didn't see anything from him over the last few years to make me think he'd have been any better for us this year.
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| Quote: moto748 "And we've managed fine without him for lengthy periods in the past.'"
We've managed without him for half a game pretty much every game last season due to his lack of stamina. No point having a part-time hooker on big wages when we have two others who can do his job.
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| Hey, I'm not shedding any tears over MM! But as when any player leaves, you like to think he is being replaced with someone better. And the point about considering the opposition before praising him to the skies for the World Cup is a fair one. Ashton Sims looked good for Fiji in the World Cup; should we rush to sign him?
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "The reason that clause was inserted into Gellings contract was to stop him doing a Joel Moon!!'"
Don't think that Gelling would do that not that sort of person.
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| It is a sad day when the manager of the Lloyds Bank is controlling our squad selection.
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| Quote: DaveO "If Phil Wilkinson is right then that destroys IL's reputation as some sort of financial wizard because he's reduced the club to having to offload one of its best players'"
Since when was Mcilorum one of our best players? He's not even our best hooker. Having said that, I don't get the logic in this, surely there isn't time to take advantage of the cap space.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
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| Quote: Ashton Bears "Don't think that Gelling would do that not that sort of person.'"
Salford didn't with Moon, Saints didn't either with Luke Walsh.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| I wonder if this is the start of a big change over the next 2 -3 years. Looking back at Wigan's most successful periods they very rarely kept players over the age of thirty. Even the likes of Hanley, Gregory, Lydon, Edwards etc were let go.
This has been a relatively young team that has evolved over the last ten years, but I expect there will be big changes in the next couple of seasons.
One thing they have done well is to bring the academy players through, it'll be interesting to see which ones make the grade and how many Wigan have to "bring in from the outside"
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I wonder if this is the start of a big change over the next 2 -3 years. Looking back at Wigan's most successful periods they very rarely kept players over the age of thirty. Even the likes of Hanley, Gregory, Lydon, Edwards etc were let go.
This has been a relatively young team that has evolved over the last ten years, but I expect there will be big changes in the next couple of seasons.
One thing they have done well is to bring the academy players through, it'll be interesting to see which ones make the grade and how many Wigan have to "bring in from the outside"'"
Just having a conversation with a friend and discussed the impending player turnover I expect Wigan will have in the next 2-3 years.
Obviously Locky and TL will be finished and we will also be in a position to re-evaluate our marquee signings. If Williams plays like a marquee player he will be off to the NRL I expect regardless of what we through his way and I doubt Tomkins can expect marquee status next time around.
Bateman will be off within a year or 2, FPN will be gone, Joel’s contract can be renegotiated.
All these lads will be taking up a massive slice of the cap. Bringing players through but also bringing in real quality marquee signings will be a very important period for the club and how they manage that going forward. Massive opportunity but massive risks involved also.
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