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| I could see the potential worry if the latics were still a premier league side, but they aren't bringing in the money all on their own these days.
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| Quote: Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy "Why would there be a need for new roads and parking? It's there already. All the infrastructure is there and the footprint of Robin Park is similar to the DW. Obviously all speculation at the moment but if things do progress in the takeover and the new owners are not happy with the current arrangement, Wigan RL would not be doing its job if it didn't consider what options were open to it.'"
So the club owners, who in this scenario have presumably booted us out, would still let us use their parking? Meaning we would still have to ensure the games don't clash.
By 'access', I didn't mean new roads, but walking room, bearing in mind everyone pretty much leaves at the same time, and would need to be able to leave in a hurry in the event of an incident. By the time you have built four stands there, I reckon you are already in the River Dougie on the east side, before you have added in room for thousands of people to safely enter/leave. It would be nice to have our own stadium in an ideal world, but I don't think developing Robin Park into an SL ground is realistic.
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| Quote: Grimmy "So the club owners, who in this scenario have presumably booted us out, would still let us use their parking? Meaning we would still have to ensure the games don't clash.
By 'access', I didn't mean new roads, but walking room, bearing in mind everyone pretty much leaves at the same time, and would need to be able to leave in a hurry in the event of an incident. By the time you have built four stands there, I reckon you are already in the River Dougie on the east side, before you have added in room for thousands of people to safely enter/leave. It would be nice to have our own stadium in an ideal world, but I don't think developing Robin Park into an SL ground is realistic.'"
The stadium company charge for parking, why would they turn down the chance to make money? The police wouldn't allow two games to go ahead at the same time next to each other, so no chance of clashing anyway.
Plenty of other grounds are bounded by rivers (Notts Forest, Notts County, Fulham etc) they seem to manage ok.
I think we might be over thinking this at the moment, putting 2+2 together and making 6. IF the club ultimately want their own ground I wouldn't be surprised if Robin Park is the easiest/cheapest/most favourable location.
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| having a stadium next to a stadium is probably the most unlikely solution no matter how feasible it may seem!
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| The Wigan evening post say the potential sale has a long by way to go and is nowhere near as advanced as the national newspapers have reported.
Unless these Chinese blokes don't like money, I doubt it'll be an issue regardless but we'll see.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "It makes the move to Robin Park all the more interesting.'"
Move ?
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| Quote: twosevenzero "Move ?'"
Training, gym, academy, media etc etc.
Get your van round to Orrell quick
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| I believe that the bloke who brokered the deal with the Arabs at City is behind this.
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| I see Ashley has put Newcastle up for sale. I know where my money would be!
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| I don't think we need to worry. This is probably the beginning of the end for the Latics. I can't see a lower end investor forking out for a stadium too. It would be too costly. Unless they have the money of Man City, Chelsea etc (i very much doubt it) then all the hysteria behind this proposal will soon disappear. Recent history shows us that foreign investors in the lower leagues have a woeful record and are only in it for a quick buck. Birmingham City, Coventry City, Charlton Athletic, Leyton Orient etc all ruined as clubs. Leyton Orient and Coventry barely have a club any more. Once this happens and there are protests etc and the rest of the 200 fans they have disappear they won't have a club left.
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| Quote: Cherry_Warrior "I don't think we need to worry. This is probably the beginning of the end for the Latics. I can't see a lower end investor forking out for a stadium too. It would be too costly. Unless they have the money of Man City, Chelsea etc (i very much doubt it) then all the hysteria behind this proposal will soon disappear. Recent history shows us that foreign investors in the lower leagues have a woeful record and are only in it for a quick buck. Birmingham City, Coventry City, Charlton Athletic, Leyton Orient etc all ruined as clubs. Leyton Orient and Coventry barely have a club any more. Once this happens and there are protests etc and the rest of the 200 fans they have disappear they won't have a club left.'"
I'm a fan of both and your point us very valid. There is a history now if foreign investment in English football clubs just not working out, for every Man City there are two or three cases where these owners come in and the clubs just descend in to turmoil.
The guy who is brokering this deal is the guy who brokered the Man City deal, as he was their chief exec at the time but if these guys have serious cash, why would they choose Wigan? It's all well and good saying they'd be cheap but there are numerous clubs which would be cheap around the country but would have potential to dwarf the crowds we get.
Something doesn't feel right about the deal. These guys probably see the hugely rich, powerful figures getting involved in football ownership now and fancy a piece of the action but much like those people we all know, they want to buy a brand new Ferrari but can only afford a 10 year old Range Rover and won't be able to afford to fill it up with fuel.
Hope I'm wrong and these guys have pots of cash but I doubt it.
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| Looks like this might be happening sooner rather than later according to the BBC - £20m+ deal with Hong Kong investors.
If it is £20m, seems low for a football club who are likely to be in the Championship next season and are essentially debt free. I'd be surprised if the stadium is included at that price.
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| Quote: Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy "Looks like this might be happening sooner rather than later according to the BBC - £20m+ deal with Hong Kong investors.
If it is £20m, seems low for a football club who are likely to be in the Championship next season and are essentially debt free. I'd be surprised if the stadium is included at that price.
rlhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41648722rl'"
That seems to be what the national press reported yesterday but the post reckon be is not that advanced.
What would they going rate for a stadium be? The playing roster is decent enough with a few of them probably having a value of £1m+ (Grigg, Burn, Jacobs, Morsy). The club also owns two training grounds doesn't it?
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Quote: Rogues Gallery "Move ?'"
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Get your van round to Orrell quick
Plenty time.
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| Quote: Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy "Looks like this might be happening sooner rather than later according to the BBC - £20m+ deal with Hong Kong investors.
If it is £20m, seems low for a football club who are likely to be in the Championship next season and are essentially debt free. I'd be surprised if the stadium is included at that price.
rlhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41648722rl'"
£20m may buy the team and the training grounds, but it wont buy a stadium too, and I'd bet that if DW didn't own the Latics, they'd be paying full rent to use the stadium. It may end up in a situation like Crystal Palace & Portsmouth where the new foreign owners didn't own the ground they played on. Both went into Administration pretty soon afterwards.
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