You going for the win over Cronulla as well?

I'm with you. IMO if we stay relatively injury free there's no one to touch us this year.

If we do stay injury free (ish) then we have no excuses to not be winning at least one of the major two trophies. Our backline is as good as anything as is the pack and we're littered with match winners like Burgess, Tomkins, Williams, Bateman etc.

I say that but the Red Vee review of us does say we look uninspiring on paper so maybe not! In all honesty I don't think I've been quite as excited by a Wigan side on paper as I am by this one in a long while. Fully fit our 17 looks superb to me but then again we don't have Tommy Lee or Dom Peyroux so I might be getting ahead of myself.

I think we'll win the title again. We have the most complete squad and seem to be able to pick it up when it matters.

We haven't even got a prolific winger like Jack Owens

There's some astonishing arrogance on this thread, even by Wigan fan's standards. You do have a great habit of setting yourselves up for a fall.

I think to say our squad is far superior smacks of over confidence and dare I say it arrogance.

We have a right to be confident after what the squad achieved last year. Looking at this season I think ourselves, Warrington, Leeds, St Helens and Hull are capeable of challenging for the GF, I'd also add Cas to that list as dark horses for the cup. On paper I think Warrington have the strongest team if not the strongest squad, it remains to be seen whether they can get over the final hurdle though.

As always, a lot will depend on injuries, particularly with the extra double game weekend when quite a few injuries seem to happen.

I'd go for (in no particular order) Wigan & Warrington top 2
St Helens, Leeds & Hull 3 to 5
Cas in 6th

After that I'm struggling though I think Widnes will struggle.

We do. I mean we all wrote our chances off of winning anything last year with a squad which was absolutely battered and we pulled the big one out the bag.

Massive fall!!

I was looking at Wires probable 17 the other day and I certainly wouldnt have it as the best in the league (certainly not when you consider Currie is out for a while). Their 1-5 isn't good enough to be able to consider them as having the best team on paper in the league and the halfbacks lack pace. The pack is clearly very good but it will have to be to create enough space for that backline imo.

'On Paper' I'd say Wigan and Hull are pretty close and then there's a slight gap to Warrington.

You hope.

There wasn't much evidence of that last season, but don't let that stop you dreaming.

What is it I am dreaming of exactly? Not sure what you're on about.



Just because you won it last year doesn't mean you haven't been guilty of being over-confident in the past. The cup defeat v Cas springs to mind straight away for example. Also prior to the the 2014 Grand Final I was reading about how easy it was going to be for you. My point is Wigan fans do have form for making bold predictions and falling flat on their face.

For anyone to suggest their squad is "far superior" than everyone else and "there's nobody to touch us" is extremely arrogant in my opinion and I'm sure if any fan of Saints, Warrington or Hull said the same you'd agree.

I notice a Wigan fan, "Trainman" agrees with me but nobody seems to be pulling him up for saying it's arrogant as well!

We have Escare, Burgess and Tomkins in the backs, losing Charnley and Sarginson. Plus Tierney and Gildart another year older and Gelling fully fit. TL in for Matty Smith is an obvious massive improvement plus we have MM, SOL and Joel Tomkins all fit again in the pack, losing Mossop and Crosby admittedly but gaining Navarette. If we stay fit why not be confident?

Huge huge differernt in confidence and complete and utter arrogance. I am confident Saints will be there or thereabouts when it comes to handing out trophies but I would never say we are streets ahead of everyone else and that nobody will touch us. Firstly it's simply not true, for Saints or any other team, and also even if I thought it I wouldn't say it because it's arrogant and dismissive of other teams. It's the type of statement that is likely to come back and bite you.