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| Quote: FlexWheeler "It's pretty much the only way you score points these days.'"
We actually have this tactic nailed and it is almost impossible to defend
Shame that our other attacking options, if we actually have any aren't as fool proof
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| We scored off a lot of kicks last season (chipping to Burgess was pretty successful) but this year the little grubber to the corner has been the only way we're looking like scoring. We desperately need an attacking coach IMO. A lot of criticism has been aimed at some of the creative players (completely justified) but we are playing so flat and laboured it's almost impossible to create anything.
It makes me laugh that some of our fans are still moaning about us being too structured and robotic when the problem is the complete opposite of that. Under Madge we were perhaps a tad overcoached in attack but everything was slick and every player knew their job, and there is no denying that it was successful. Now there is very little depth to our attack, we have no option/dummy runners, awful passing accuracy and we don't create overlaps. Sam has obviously adapted his game but there needs to be some element of a running game from him, just tipping it on to the centre every time regardless of whether they are in space or not isn't enough. Even if he has lost a yard of pace he should still be able to exploit gaps if they're there (even Wellens had a decent running game and ST is still quicker than he ever was - with his bootlaces tied together!)
What worries me now is after 23 games getting ourselves into a decent position purely by grinding out games is we don't seem to have addressed any of the issues in attack. Granted injuries haven't helped but Friday was one of the strongest "on paper" teams we've fielded all season, including first choice 1,6,7 and 13, and it was one of the worst performances. We're now getting to the business end of the season and there is nothing to suggest that anything is starting to "click". I hope I'm wrong but we could well be in for a pretty miserable back end of the season. Let's see how Friday goes for starters - another season not getting to Wembley after the way we have limped out over the past 2 seasons would be bitterly disappointing.
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| We don't even execute our grubber kicks well. The vast majority go straight out of play.
It's not known as 'the Hail Mary ball' for nothing ... at best it gives you a 50% chance of scoring. But our halves can't even manage that.
Very frustrating to see possession near the line kicked away so often and so casually.
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| Quote: Cruncher "We don't even execute our grubber kicks well. The vast majority go straight out of play.
It's not known as 'the Hail Mary ball' for nothing ... at best it gives you a 50% chance of scoring. But our halves can't even manage that.
Very frustrating to see possession near the line kicked away so often and so casually.'"
I can't understand why occasionally we don't take a tackle on the 6th especially if it's on the opponents line.
To be fair it's the only time our wingers actually have a decent chance of getting the ball so if we did stop kicking to the corner Manfredi and Charnley will get even less opportunities.
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| Surely, what virtually every team does, whether in SL or the NRL, is vary their 5th tackle options: the grubber kick to the corner for the winger, the grubber kick under the sticks (either for a runner to score or force a repeat set), the high kick to the corner, the power play...
Mystifyingly, we don't seem to do that.
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| Quote: moto748 "Surely, what virtually every team does, whether in SL or the NRL, is vary their 5th tackle options
We need Gels back, he's the only one that actually tries something different, and plenty of times it comes off.
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| We do indeed, and good on him!
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| Quote: moto748 "Surely, what virtually every team does, whether in SL or the NRL, is vary their 5th tackle options
This is a good point. We always put in a ball with the intention of scoring even if there is nothing on. We should be putting kicks in which mean 'at best' we score or get a repeat set and 'at worst' the defending player gets the ball a yard in from his own line.
Our kicks from half way to restart the game NEVER trouble anyone!! They go to the same position 5-6 times a game. We're just not exciting to watch, no wonder our average attendances has reduced from 16k to just over 12k.
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