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| Replacing Charnley with a younger, faster winger is a cracking bit of business.
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| Damn......more pain for The Wire !!!
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| Sensational Wigan. Well done. Hopefully this is the beginning of the end for out players wanting to go to oz
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| Pity we couldn't keep hold of him in the first place.
It's the state of the league and RL in general, but it's a pity the likes of Joe, Sam, Joel and anyone who's come through our system should be with us from the start not wanting to look elsewhere. Then the signings we bring in are additional to our own development.
We're signing someone who we should have never left.
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| Another prodigal son returns to the club. What great news. Hallelujah.
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| Yeah, so failure then.
Even Michael Worrincy stuck it out longer.
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| Quote: krisleeds "Yeah, so failure then.
Even Michael Worrincy stuck it out longer.'"
Our guys leave and then return whereas your guys just want to leave. Rats and sinking ships spring to mind.
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| Very surprised he is coming back so soon. I know he has been playing reserve grade mostly but I thought he would have stayed for least another year.
But it shows that going to the NRL when you are young is not a bad thing as you can always come back.
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| Quote: krisleeds "Yeah, so failure then.
Even Michael Worrincy stuck it out longer.'"
I never understand people saying this? If he did fail in the NRL, so what, he will come back to Super League where he is undoubtedly one of the best wingers in the competition. Him not setting the NRL on fire has zero bearing on his ability to come back and tear it up in Super League next year. Does anyone now call Sandow an NRL failure, because for the last 3 years or so thats what he's been, an absolute NRL failure, but he is fantastic in Super League. Fantastic signing by the club and I'm glad we didn't sign Carney now as I'd much rather have Burgess back on the wing.
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| Great news as far as I am concerned.
Budgie showed he was mature beyond his years when he played for us and the way he linked with Faz often giving him a perfect pass inside despite running flat out marks him out as a natural RL player.
A bit surprised he has come back so soon. I thought despite not making the first team he'd stick it out for the experience of not just playing there but for the lifestyle.
Whatever, he was a pleasure to watch and assuming he plays outside of Gildart we will have pace to burn on that side of the pitch. Should provide plenty of entertainment!
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| This is where the clubs decisions to allow players to go to Australia and on terms that allow a return is working well, the setup must be good enough to encourage a player back (it's not all about money) and we get the benefit of a more rounded player coming back.
Some won't come back, but so far so good, we have players who are returning having had the benefit and experience of the NRL setup.
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| Quote: goobervision "This is where the clubs decisions to allow players to go to Australia and on terms that allow a return is working well, the setup must be good enough to encourage a player back (it's not all about money) and we get the benefit of a more rounded player coming back.'"
That doesn't apply here. Budgie was out of contract. The club didn't "allow" him to leave, they had no say in the matter and he just left. Sorted it all out for himself (with no doubt an agents help).
Quote: goobervision "Some won't come back, but so far so good, we have players who are returning having had the benefit and experience of the NRL setup.'"
Though Sam looks to be finding his pre-NRL form the rest of the returnees have hardly set the world on fire. I don't like this scheme at all because in my view the club more or less automatically re-signs players rather than looking whether we need them or if there aren't better players available. I'd go as far as saying at the start IL would have signed a potential returnee with one leg to prove a point as in my view the whole first dibs on returning players was a PR exercise to try and lessen the blow of them leaving in the first place.
We have yet to see a player make a go of it in the NRL or stick it out living down-under so until we do and a player returns having seen their NRL contract out and at the top of their game I don't think there is much substance to this idea.
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| Fantastic news! Knew he would be back one day but not this soon.
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| He's good mates with Gildart and Williams so hopefully they'll cotton on to the grass not always being greener on the other side.
Unless you're a freak I think any player should make sure they've got 4 or 5 years at the back of them in first team rugby before they go.
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| Quote: JWarriors " Does anyone now call Sandow an NRL failure, because for the last 3 years or so thats what he's been, an absolute NRL failure'"
Not so, really. Second only to JT in try assists in his last NRL season. Sure, he fell out with the Eels coach, but that's another matter.
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