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Quote: trickyt74 "josh is leaving and you seriously think matty smith is a good goal kicker and you call me a mug you stupid f**k'"


I'll ask again, as you conveniently didn't answer. Did you go yesterday?

Did you see Pat Richards licking on Friday night?

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I'll ask again, as you conveniently didn't answer. Did you go yesterday?

Did you see Pat Richards licking on Friday night?'"


yes i did go as i do every week home and away and if you look at the time of my post it was just after matty smith missed his second kick and before josh took over the kicking duty's
and no i did not see pat Richards LICKING on Friday what was he licking ???
and are your trying to tell me you are happy with matty keeping the kicking duty's for the club for the next few years ?

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As I've said before. people who are widely regarded as 'good' kickers often have career averages only around 72,73%. People like Cam Smith, Jamie Lyon...

People who can kick 78-80% in the long run are a vanishingly small group: Sinfield, JT, Croker...

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Quote: trickyt74 "yes i did go as i do every week home and away and if you look at the time of my post it was just after matty smith missed his second kick and before josh took over the kicking duty's
and no i did not see pat Richards LICKING on Friday what was he licking ???
and are your trying to tell me you are happy with matty keeping the kicking duty's for the club for the next few years ?'"

I wouldn't have thought that anyone is happy with Matty kicking, least of all Matty himself. Can you suggest an alternative?

As I've mentioned above I'd let Powell have a go or leave it with Josh for now. There is plenty of this season to go before we need to worry about next season. But you need to consider that in buying someone he would have to be good enough to get in the first 13, otherwise we might just as well have got Danny Tickle back!

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Quote: moto748 "As I've said before. people who are widely regarded as 'good' kickers often have career averages only around 72,73%. People like Cam Smith, Jamie Lyon...

People who can kick 78-80% in the long run are a vanishingly small group

Report in the papers today about the England RU squad for Australia. There are 3 stand offs and it lists their kicking % for the season

Cipriani 64% Farrell 73% Ford 73%. Smiths stats are not that bad in comparison. Every team would love a Sinfield, Botica that looks like they will never miss but to find a kicker who is good enough to get in the team on merit is not that easy

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Quote: hengirl "What was he doing he just appeared seemingly out of nowhere
None other than the son of 'big fat' Garry Schofield!

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I can't say I'm happy with Smith as a kicker, it's more to do with it seems to have a detrimental effect on the rest of his game more than his ability as a kicker though I'd never back him to get one from the touch line.

What we can't do is simply play someone else just for their kicking. They have to be good enough to get in the team first. If we find such a player I'm sure Matty would be more than happy to hand over the role. Within the team we have Sam T, Josh and Sam P as options. Once MM is back Powell won't play enough minutes to be the main kicker, Josh is off at the end of the year so that leaves Tomkins. Does he want to do it and is he good enough? I'm not sure of either.

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Quote: Trainman "I can't say I'm happy with Smith as a kicker, it's more to do with it seems to have a detrimental effect on the rest of his game more than his ability as a kicker though I'd never back him to get one from the touch line.

What we can't do is simply play someone else just for their kicking. They have to be good enough to get in the team first. If we find such a player I'm sure Matty would be more than happy to hand over the role. Within the team we have Sam T, Josh and Sam P as options. Once MM is back Powell won't play enough minutes to be the main kicker, Josh is off at the end of the year so that leaves Tomkins. Does he want to do it and is he good enough? I'm not sure of either.'"



I would also worry about putting undue strain on his knee by adding kicking duties as well given the seriousness of the injury he has had.

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Quote: eelpie "None other than the son of 'big fat' Garry Schofield!'"

I knew I knew that face. Should have sussed it with the specs!
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Quote: eelpie "None other than the son of 'big fat' Garry Schofield!'"

I knew I knew that face. Should have sussed it with the specs!
www.dewsburyrams.co.uk/player?52 ... -schofield


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Josh is the best kicker at Wigan at the moment k020.gif

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The current 'goalkicking league table' for anyone making more than 15 attempts at goal in Super League this year.

1 - Lilley - 88.5%
2 - Gidley - 84.6%
3 - Walsh - 81%
4 - Sneyd - 80%
5 - Finn - 78.6%
6 - Gale - 78.2%
7 - Mantellato - 77.8%
8 - O'Brien - 74.3%
9 - Richards - 73.8%
10 - Brough - 73.8%
11 - Smith - 72.5%
12 - Dobson - 70.4%
13 - Hanbury - 70.2%

While there are some fine margins involved, Smith is statistically the 2nd worst first choice goalkicker in Super League.

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Quote: Cherry.Pie "The current 'goalkicking league table' for anyone making more than 15 attempts at goal in Super League this year.

1 - Lilley - 88.5%
2 - Gidley - 84.6%
3 - Walsh - 81%
4 - Sneyd - 80%
5 - Finn - 78.6%
6 - Gale - 78.2%
7 - Mantellato - 77.8%
8 - O'Brien - 74.3%
9 - Richards - 73.8%
10 - Brough - 73.8%
11 - Smith - 72.5%
12 - Dobson - 70.4%
13 - Hanbury - 70.2%

While there are some fine margins involved, Smith is statistically the 2nd worst first choice goalkicker in Super League.'"

Not many of those would get into our first team on merit, though.

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Quote: Geoff "Not many of those would get into our first team on merit, though.'"


id say that Sneyd, Gidley and Richards would. Probably Dobson too

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Luke Gale would walk into our team.

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This as been a problem for the last 2 years and will be this year and no surprise we aint won anything during this time.

This comes down to planning and player recruitment.

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