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Quote: MattyB "Where are all the Widnes fans on their forum?
A great start to their season, top of the league, big game tomorrow night against local rivals and their forum is dead. Literally!'"
We are original and have our own forum www.wissl.co.uk/forum/viewforum.php?f=14
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Quote: MattyB "Where are all the Widnes fans on their forum?
A great start to their season, top of the league, big game tomorrow night against local rivals and their forum is dead. Literally!'"
We are original and have our own forum www.wissl.co.uk/forum/viewforum.php?f=14
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Love to go and read the Widnes forum but I get a website safety alert.
Warning: Trouble ahead
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Love to go and read the Widnes forum but I get a website safety alert.
Warning: Trouble ahead
Whoa!
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www.wissl.co.uk/forum/viewforum.php?f=14&am... may be risky to visit.
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When we visited this site, we found it exhibited one or more risky behaviors | |
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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf]
[quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]: |
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| Quote: outrun "Grimmy by name Grim by nature what a statment to make yourself look a right muppett. you say Widnes are artificially top by virtue of playing an extra game and not having played any of the form sides yet (except Salford, who beat them. Well go on then grimmy tell us the form sides you have played and beaten to be second hmmmmmm you beat huddersfield 18-13 beat widnes beat them 36-18 you beat hull fc 26-25 big win mate lol we widnes beat hull fc 46-6. you beat leeds 28-6 widnes beat leeds 56-12 !!!! you did have that massive win against the dragons mind 12-6 ha ha ha and managed to beat salford 20-16. widnes lost to salford as you stated after going down 22 nil to come back and nearly win 28-20. so i can see where your coming from with all them spankings of form sides you are dishing out lol ![]()
I think we can see why the Widnes forum is hardly thriving. Outrun is clearly hogging the communal braincell.
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| Quote: Grimmy "I think we can see why the Widnes forum is hardly thriving. Outrun is clearly hogging the communal braincell.'"
Ok not so eloquently put Grimmy but you get the point. Do you think Wigan are blowing teams away? Who would you say was a fantastic result against? Wigan's biggest test so far was Brisbane and they failed miserably.
I read a heck of a lot of neutrals that tipped Hull to beat us last week and after a shakey start they couldn't handle us. Tonight is of course our toughest test but I'm sure the players are taking it more serious that some of the dismissive fans here. |
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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf]
[quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]: |
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| Quote: AJ Viking "Ok not so eloquently put Grimmy but you get the point. Do you think Wigan are blowing teams away? Who would you say was a fantastic result against? Wigan's biggest test so far was Brisbane and they failed miserably.
I read a heck of a lot of neutrals that tipped Hull to beat us last week and after a shakey start they couldn't handle us. Tonight is of course our toughest test but I'm sure the players are taking it more serious that some of the dismissive fans here.'"
A couple of weeks ago I'd have been more worried, but bar a ten minute lapse we really dominated Hull FC, and we looked better again against Leeds, and could have put 50 past them if Williams had played or a few passes had stuck. We have won our last 25 SL games at the DW, and since you returned to SL our record against you at the DW is:
Won 20-10
Won 48-04
Won 48-04 (again)
Won 62-04
Won 54-12
I know the 'done thing' is to say it'll be a tough one with no more than a score in it so I don't look daft if we lose but i think the above is fair reason for me to be confident. I reckon we look more likely to step up that extra gear and blow you away, or at worst grind out the win, than for you to finally end our SL home run. Obviously the players won't be as relaxed as me and will be treating this as one they will need to play at their best to win. FWIW if this was an away game I'd be predicting a win by no more than 6. |
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I am in the same boat as Grimmy pretty much. Except that if we don't win I won't feel stupid as it's just a prediction and nobody can be certain what will happen out there on the pitch tonight. But I'm not that worried that out home winning streak will be ended tonight.
As I said, if you look back to 2014 Widnes had a similar start to that season too, and fell off in the end, I am predicting something similar this year, unless they can be extremely lucky and remain injury free. They have a good team, and I think it will be a good game tonight, but if Wigan defend like they have been doing then I feel confident.
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| Quote: JWarriors "As I said, if you look back to 2014 Widnes had a similar start to that season too, and fell off in the end, I am predicting something similar this year, unless they can be extremely lucky and remain injury free. They have a good team, and I think it will be a good game tonight, but if Wigan defend like they have been doing then I feel confident.'"
Am I reading this right that if Widnes finish in the top 4/5 you think it will be purely down to luck? |
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| Quote: Grimmy "I'm feeling very confident about this one. Widnes are artificially top by virtue of playing an extra game and not having played any of the form sides yet (except Salford, who beat them). They're going well but I can't see them having enough to break our home record, particularly as we usually spank them at the DW. Our attack looked pretty threatening on Friday too. I'll go 38-10'"
I thought our defence last week was very aggressive and looked really solid. Thought our attack quite frankly in the first half was pretty awful but improved a bit in the second half.
Just don't see 28 points between the teams.
If Widnes can defend their line well I'd give them a decent chance tonight unless we improve our passing game which has been pedestrian, telegraphed with zero dummy runners.
I would turn your argument around and say that we haven't played anybody yet that can actually attack at pace with perhaps the exception of Salford who could have nicked it near the end.
We have zero pace so will be interesting to see how we try and combat the Widnes attack particularly on a good dry surface. Looking forward to it. |
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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf]
[quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]: |
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| Quote: Itchy Arsenal "I thought our defence last week was very aggressive and looked really solid. Thought our attack quite frankly in the first half was pretty awful but improved a bit in the second half.
Just don't see 28 points between the teams.
If Widnes can defend their line well I'd give them a decent chance tonight unless we improve our passing game which has been pedestrian, telegraphed with zero dummy runners.
I would turn your argument around and say that we haven't played anybody yet that can actually attack at pace with perhaps the exception of Salford who could have nicked it near the end.
We have zero pace so will be interesting to see how we try and combat the Widnes attack particularly on a good dry surface. Looking forward to it.'"
Not sure I'd agree with you regarding zero pace, Manfredi and Charnley both made good breaks last week, not many can catch Gildart, Gelling, Sarginson or Williams, Bateman and Farrell and rapid for second rowers. Flower is very mobile for a prop. That's nearly half the 17 I'd class as amongst the fastest in SL in their position. |
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| Quote: Grimmy "Not sure I'd agree with you regarding zero pace, Manfredi and Charnley both made good breaks last week, not many can catch Gildart, Gelling, Sarginson or Williams, Bateman and Farrell and rapid for second rowers. Flower is very mobile for a prop. That's nearly half the 17 I'd class as amongst the fastest in SL in their position.[/quo
Gelling and Sarginson????? Don't think either of them have scored tries from any distance while they have been here.
Charnley was fast but his take on Fatty Arbuckle (one for grey heads or slap heads) has slowed him down to a fast trot.
Williams I give you but doesn't use it enough for me.
Manfredi great close to the line but not one for length of the field efforts. A good effort last week but Hardaker still got back to catch him last week despite flapping and letting Manfredi to get past him.
Bateman and Farrell are useful but wouldn't put pace as their main attributes.
Let's see how quick they are tonight when a team lets the ball do the running.
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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf]
[quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]: |
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| Quote: Itchy Arsenal "Gelling and Sarginson????? Don't think either of them have scored tries from any distance while they have been here.
Charnley was fast but his take on Fatty Arbuckle (one for grey heads or slap heads) has slowed him down to a fast trot.
Williams I give you but doesn't use it enough for me.
Manfredi great close to the line but not one for length of the field efforts. A good effort last week but Hardaker still got back to catch him last week despite flapping and letting Manfredi to get past him.
Bateman and Farrell are useful but wouldn't put pace as their main attributes.
Let's see how quick they are tonight when a team lets the ball do the running.'"
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| Quote: Grimmy "Ok, don't cheer too loudly if you're correct ![]()
Nothing would give me greater pleasure than seeing Sarginson going the full length of the field or Charnley supporting a break from Gildart
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Silverwood's performance will be crucial. The Widnes fans are also critical of him, but several times last season and also this he has not done Wigan any favours - most noticeably, though, when he has been VR. Grand Final (with Bentham) ignoring McGuire's blatant knock on which led to a try and Farrell's disallowed try last week.
It is a fascinating contest - if Wigan's defence is as ruthless as last week, they should win comfortably. If the forwards do not get on top, Kevin Brown, Joe Mellor and Hanbury could wreak havoc and Widnes could have a field day.
Quietly confident the Wigan forwards will prevail and the outside backs will be as effective as they were against Leeds.
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| Quote: Itchy Arsenal "
Manfredi's length of the field effort was hardly a clear run to the line, he brushed off 4 or 5 tackles before Hardaker just about got to him. I bet there aren't too many quicker over 100m
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| Quote: Harrison "Am I reading this right that if Widnes finish in the top 4/5 you think it will be purely down to luck?[/quo
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You are not reading it right. But maybe I phrased it badly.
I think if Widnes are lucky on the injury front (don't get many injuries to key players) then they have a chance of finishing between 4th and 8th. If they are unlucky and Brown, Mellor or one of the other key playmakers gets an injury then I think Widnes would struggle to get into the top 8 again. Essentially, I do believe Widnes have a very good 19/20 players, but after that, their squad looks thin in comparison to Leeds, Wigan, Warrington etc who can deal with quite a few injuries and simply bring people in who do the job.
For example, imagine the team Widnes would put out if they had their first choice fullback, stand-off, hooker and 3 back row forwards out injured. That would be like losing Hanbury, Brown, White, Houston, Cahill and Leuluai for example.
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