Wigan fans are arrogant, but sometimes arrogance is earned, they are the most successful side in the game.
Wigan say they respect Saints, not sure they do really, they just pay them lip service, they may see Wire as insignificant compared to Saints because you have won more, but don't kid yourself they respect you either.
Saints fans are unbelievably fickle.
If Wigan went down a league, they would lose fans but I guarantee the percentage would be way less than Saints, Saints just have to lose a handful of games and their gates drop significantly.
Saints fans arrogantly assume they have a devine right to steamroll every team in every game.
Listen how noisy you were at Salford...granted only twice at the half time and full time whistle.

I have a begrudging respect for Wigan, Saints...No team I like seeing getting battered more than Saints.

When we play Saints and Warrington there is always a lot of barracking and trolling leading up to the games but when Saints play Warrington there is nothing but hatred from every quarter. Not sure what you have done to each other to earn that though? Could you indulge me? It's borderline worse than Wire v Widnes but they are always a bit more violent

Not in the salary capped Super League era they're not
How long do you want to go go back for them to be the most successful?
Hunslet,Wakefield,Huddersfield and South Sydney (1 GF win recently) have also been successful in bygone years despite winning nothing for years to make them worthy of being the best side in the game

Just add the cups up, not hard is it

So we're not talking the past 20 SL seasons then?

I didn't start watching RL in 96, pretty sure it's older than 20 years old this game.

Saints fans selective memory, another reason...thanks for reminding me.

So Hunslet are more successful than Wolves then?

Wire are 4th in the Challenge Cup

1st. Wigan 19
2nd. Leeds 13
3rd. Saints 12
4th. Wire 8

16th. Hunslet 2

Championship Winners

Wire 3
Hunslet 2

League leaders

Wire 6
Hunslet 1

So the answer is no Hunslet are not more successful than Wire.

Well behind us though

Quick check - I am still in the Wigan forum aren't I?

Yes but we live in an age where we are encouraged to embrace diversity and the afflicted

Success can be measured in many ways and is subjective from a fan's perspective. If I was a Wigan fan I would take pride in the clubs overall achievements and arguably being the he most famous rugby club in the world. Saints fans will measure success in terms of the superleague as it trumps Wigan and certainly trumps us although jammy grand final win aside, Saints haven't won anything since 2007 apart from the St Helens Star team of the week. In recent years since 2007 we've had some success with 3 cc wins and 2 gf finals so we're not so much of a pathetic club portrayed by the deluded stains fans who are living in the early naughties.

Over many many years being Wire and rugby league fan, I've noticed that stains fans by far contain a conspicuous element of arrogance and like more than anyone to take the mickey, which is fine. But when the shoe is on the other they can't take it, and even worse don't understand why many Wire fans take great pleasure in seeing a boring misfiring stains side containing players with less flair than those found on a table football pole.

Remember the number of complaints when Sky unwrapped the shield then re wrapped it and took it down the tunnel.

More so because it was us, their insignificant neighbours embarrassing them on live TV.

Everyone thought it hilarious...Saints fans complained in numbers, absolute whoppers.

This is amazing
I posted this earlier on before I even saw this thread:
"...same goes for those of you who think the (more successful in SL) Saints are jealous, as you seem to constantly mention they MUST be obsessed with you whenever they talk about their closest rival"
I think Im beginning to see which club is obsessed with the other haha
(hint: its the one with 3 GF wins not 5)