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Quote: Grimmy "Looking forward to it, IL and Co should be applauded for increasing our presence'"


All opinions welcome in my book and we obviously differ on ours but i struggle to see where our presence has been increased. It was all about raising the corporate profile. It failed. We have swapped our worldwide betting sponsor of Coral to one of a no mark betting firm from the Isle Of Man. Hardly Harrods is it?

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Quote: Cherry_Warrior "All opinions welcome in my book and we obviously differ on ours but i struggle to see where our presence has been increased. It was all about raising the corporate profile. It failed. We have swapped our worldwide betting sponsor of Coral to one of a no mark betting firm from the Isle Of Man. Hardly Harrods is it?'"


I'm inclined to agree. I usually back the club and IL with a lot of what they're trying to do at the club, but I really can't get behind this idea. It was reasonably successful last year because a decent chunk of people who attended didn't have to pay to get in, and a fair amount didn't even have to pay for travel. I said last year I was happy to eat my words and if we were awash with blue chip sponsors then the idea was completely justified. As you say, however, we've lost one of the largest high street betting companies for a much smaller one (admittedly not knowing what either has paid).

If there was the demand to get one of the big stadia in London filled, similar to what Saracens do at Wembley, then I'd be all for it. But getting half of our regular attendance at Millwall simply doesn't achieve anything IMO.

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Quote: Cherry_Warrior "All opinions welcome in my book and we obviously differ on ours but i struggle to see where our presence has been increased. It was all about raising the corporate profile. It failed. We have swapped our worldwide betting sponsor of Coral to one of a no mark betting firm from the Isle Of Man. Hardly Harrods is it?'"

I've no idea how much money 188 Bet are putting into the club, have you? It could be a far more lucrative deal than the Coral one. Nor have I any idea how many converted fans from London are now coming up and buying corporate boxes, groups of tickets, sky sports packages, replica shirts etc, nor how many young lads from London will now start playing rugby with Wigan as the club they want to play for one day. Plus let's not forget we've only done it once so may be a bit of a grower. The attendance was pretty decent this season as well wasn't it?

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Quote: Cherry_Warrior "All opinions welcome in my book and we obviously differ on ours but i struggle to see where our presence has been increased. It was all about raising the corporate profile. It failed. We have swapped our worldwide betting sponsor of Coral to one of a no mark betting firm from the Isle Of Man. Hardly Harrods is it?'"

Just because they're based in the IoM doesn't lessen them any. It's just a tax haven allowing companies to exploit loopholes & not pay their fair share (like McDonald's, Amazon, Starbucks etc).

How is one year of an experiment proof of failure? Whilst I strongly disagree that Millwall is the right place to do it, and I'm less than impressed that it looks like the value of season tickets and any home advantage are compromised, IL's just a businessman out to make money & the Business Club would actually appear to be working (albeit very early days) in that aspect at least. Also, if it widens the pool of talent the club has access to, that can only be a benefit as well.

I think what might have an effect on next year's trip though, is the dire performance with NZ in Stratford. That game [iwill [/ibe mentioned in the run up to ours by the London-based media and I suspect it'll be an uphill struggle to turn around everything negative that memories of that game will bring up.

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Quote: moto748 "I don't think we should bleat too much about one game a year, but it'd be nice to see some of the other SL clubs following suit.'"


Why? I thought the idea was that you'd enhance your corporate standing. Surely less competition would make more sense.

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Any chance it might be the Easter Monday game with HKR as the DW is double booked on that day .

If not any word on what's happening on Easter Monday ?

Regards , EW

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Quote: Edinburgh Warrior "Any chance it might be the Easter Monday game with HKR as the DW is double booked on that day .

If not any word on what's happening on Easter Monday ?

Regards , EW'"

Emailed the club some weeks ago re Easter Monday, no reply as yet.
Interestingly news story on club website today re extending deadline for season ticket renewal has changed the wording " Warriors Season Tickets for the 2016 campaign include all of the Warriors home matches during the
regular season and Super 8s stage." the DW wording has been dropped.

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Quote: Edinburgh Warrior "Any chance it might be the Easter Monday game with HKR as the DW is double booked on that day .

If not any word on what's happening on Easter Monday ?

Regards , EW'"


Millwall are at home to Burton Albion on Easter Monday.

Bolton are not playing at home on Easter Monday, and I believe they are in need of a few quid...

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Not a fan of this idea.... I may well attend, but i know that many can't, which i don't like...

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Quote: Wigan Peer "Not a fan of this idea.... I may well attend, but i know that many can't, which i don't like...'"

If they don't attend and you don't like them then surely it's a win, win for you icon_razz.gif

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Quote: hatty "If they don't attend and you don't like them then surely it's a win, win for you
I see you point, just don't think that our fans should be taken advantage of... And i feel they are.

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Quote: Wigan Peer "I see you point, just don't think that our fans should be taken advantage of... And i feel they are.'"

For what it's worth I agree, I didn't go to millwall last year and I won't be going to wherever they play this years, the club won't listen therefore I vote with my feet.

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I'm dead against taking a game on the road. Millwall was a dreadful venue and having to get up at 6.00am on a Saturday to get to a match isn't my idea of fun. Ordinary fans like me are kind of taken for granted.

However I swallowed the arguments put forward by IL, and deferred to his better judgement. I thought that getting a sponsor from a leading company might be one outcome of taking a game to London. That hasn't materialised.

It kind of makes sense to play Catalans in London. But good luck trying to entice fans of Salford or Wakey to Millwall. They can't even be bothered coming to the DW.

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "I'm dead against taking a game on the road. Millwall was a dreadful venue and having to get up at 6.00am on a Saturday to get to a match isn't my idea of fun. Ordinary fans like me are kind of taken for granted.

However I swallowed the arguments put forward by IL, and deferred to his better judgement. I thought that getting a sponsor from a leading company might be one outcome of taking a game to London. That hasn't materialised.

It kind of makes sense to play Catalans in London. But good look trying to entice fans of Salford or Wakey to Millwall. They can't even be bothered coming to the DW.'"


I could not have put it better...

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "

I thought that getting a sponsor from a leading company might be one outcome of taking a game to London. That hasn't materialised.
'"


www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2015- ... n-warriors

Not quite a leading company, but it is only the first year of the event.

I'm not fully sold on the idea, but willing to give it a chance. If we're still playing at Millwall in front of 8,000 in a couple of years then it hasn't worked. On the other hand if it grows there could be big benefits to wigan an rl in general.
Quote: Aboveusonlypie "

I thought that getting a sponsor from a leading company might be one outcome of taking a game to London. That hasn't materialised.
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www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2015- ... n-warriors

Not quite a leading company, but it is only the first year of the event.

I'm not fully sold on the idea, but willing to give it a chance. If we're still playing at Millwall in front of 8,000 in a couple of years then it hasn't worked. On the other hand if it grows there could be big benefits to wigan an rl in general.


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