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Quote: nohalfbacks "Not blaming the ref at all. This thread was about clarification of the offside rule. Now run along back to your own forum. Maybe someone there will be interested in your posts.'"


Post-match derby debates are what the Internet was made for. Learn to be a little more tolerant. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Mugwump "Post-match derby debates are what the Internet was made for. Learn to be a little more tolerant. Yes I am all for debate but if you want to talk about something else then start a new thread instead of hijacking another one.

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Quote: bewareshadows "I'll see your Offside and raise you a missed obstruction two tackles before Wigan s first score, a pass flung backwards called forwards, a knock on penalised as interference, several high shots and a cameo for the best milking of a penalty by o loughlin by literally dropping the ball on LMS'S head.'"

Not sure about the first one, I'll have to watch it again, but on the forward pass and interference you are dead wrong. You simply cannot deny that pass was forward, it was as clear as day on the replay. Roby got penalised for having his hand in at the ptb, again if you watch the replay it's clear as day, his hand is on the ball. Lockers definitely milked that penalty but I don't blame him one bit. The onus is on LMS to clear the ruck, Lockers doesn't have to suffer a slow and awkward ptb/pass by maneuvering round him when he can just as well take a penalty. Only LMS is to blame for that.

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Quote: Mugwump "Post-match derby debates are what the Internet was made for. Learn to be a little more tolerant.
Yeah, but in your case only when Saints have won.

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Quote: bewareshadows "I'll see your Offside and raise you a missed obstruction two tackles before Wigan s first score, a pass flung backwards called forwards, a knock on penalised as interference, several high shots and a cameo for the best milking of a penalty by o loughlin by literally dropping the ball on LMS'S head.'"


Percival being more offside than I can recall a player being this season?

As for the forward pass. Passed it behind the line, caught it a few metres in front. But it went backwards Sir honest. Momentum only does so much.

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Quote: nohalfbacks "Yes I am all for debate but if you want to talk about something else then start a new thread instead of hijacking another one.'"


What do you suggest for the title? "Whinging pie-eaters haven't a leg to stand on?" or "Poor summer yields bumper harvest of soured grapes at DW central"?

Besides. The opening question has been answered. Can't hijack a plane which has landed. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: secondstanza "Percival being more offside than I can recall a player being this season?

As for the forward pass. Passed it behind the line, caught it a few metres in front. But it went backwards Sir honest. Momentum only does so much.'"

Watch this video and then you can come back and admit you are wrong. icon_wink.gif https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=box08lq9ylg
Quote: secondstanza "Percival being more offside than I can recall a player being this season?

As for the forward pass. Passed it behind the line, caught it a few metres in front. But it went backwards Sir honest. Momentum only does so much.'"

Watch this video and then you can come back and admit you are wrong. icon_wink.gif https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=box08lq9ylg


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Quote: MadDogg "I don't think Walsh was deemed as in front of the kicker on the video replays. If he had he would have been offside as he was well within the 10.

The try wouldn't have been scored if Bowen had even jumped though, let alone catch the thing. No idea what he was thinking there.'"



If Walsh wasn't then LMS certainly was .

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Quote: jaws1 "If Walsh wasn't then LMS certainly was .'"


It was a fairly easy decision for the video ref, Turner, Roby, Masoe. Greenwood were in an offside decision but didn't follow the kick. Walsh and LMS left foot behind the line when Wilkin kicks on the line, if Wilkin delayed the kick by half a second the try would have been chalked off.

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Quote: Mugwump "I can't believe (some) Wigan fans are blaming the ref. You had all the possession. You played the better rugby.

If you can't win under such circumstances you really only have yourselves to blame.'"


Unfortunately, this is the truth, plain and simple.

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Quote: Ovavoo "Unfortunately, this is the truth, plain and simple.'"

If that makes you feel better then feel free to believe your version of the truth.

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Actually on first site I thought walsh was marginally in front of the kick. But having watched and paused on the kick he is actually in line so on side.

No issue at all with the last try.

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Quote: nohalfbacks "I just want to clarify my understanding of the offside rule when a team kicks forward. Firstly let me say that Wigan deserved to concede the last try because Bowen made no attempt to catch the ball. However it seemed to me that Walsh was offside as he was in front of Wilkin when he kicked the ball and then encroached well within the 10m zone. Surely that is offside technically? Why was that not mentioned by the commentary team or spotted by the video ref?'"

Walsh was to the left of Wilkin and had both feet behind when Wilkin kicked. It was close but the replay showed clearly that Walsh was not offside at the kick. Two guys to the right of Wilkin [iwere[/i offside but they stood still after the ball was kicked and so were well over 10m away from the action. There was no doubt about that try. And what a try it was!

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The only offside player was LMS but he wasn't involved. The forward pass call was wrong, should have been play on

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Quote: nohalfbacks "If that makes you feel better then feel free to believe your version of the truth.'"


In the immortal words of John Monie, there are two things you can't control, the weather and the ref. We had control of the game and therefore should have won. The fact that we didn't was down to us, not the ref.
Imo of course.

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