It certainly irked me.

Did anyone else hear them rhyming off how many injuries Wire had? The fact we had three starting backs + McIlorum out wasn't even mentioned

This was always going to happen though. As soon as Flower got into even a minor scuffle the media were going to pick up on it following the incident in last years Grand Final. He didn't really need to get involve and did go in with a clenched fist. But it was nothing really.

As I say, when the incident in last years final happened, then both Flower and Wigan would be subject to greater media scrutiny, and that's something that has to be accepted.

The real talking point was the Ashton Sims stamp, which was vindictive and cowardly and should result in a big ban.

Not clear for me whether he actually stood on Mossops hand, but there is clear intent, IMO.

Mossop's hand recoiled from the pain, definitely caught his hand with the stamp.

If sky want to highlight incidents they should show the Pomeroy tackle, one of the worst tackles I've seen. He could have broken the Cas players neck.

Also look at the Leigh game and the blatant con job by Lee Smith, diving to the ground holding his head most people would be embarrassed to look back at the VT of that incident, Smith will probably do it again.

Haha cracked me up that. He reeled off a list of fringe players, including the likes of Patton and O'Brian who aren't in because they've brought Sandow in. We had 5 out who would be in our first choice 17 (Burgess, Sarg, Gelling, McIlorum and Tautai) including 3 England internationals, plus we had a kid on debut!

With regards to the Flower incident there was absolutely nothing in it and it's a joke that he's had to come out and explain what he was doing. I went to the on rugby league section of the on demand bit on the sky box the other day and last year's GF is still there with the picture of Flower over Hohaia!

Beyond a joke by a long way now, other players have done far worse things than Ben did last year and got away with it and ok what he did do was stupid but he has paid the price and it's time to move on. Oscar Pistorius gets a better press than Ben Flower

The general commentary from Stevo in particular was painful on Friday so a short time into the recording I just turned the sound off as his opinions on the rules just got very boring very quickly. When do they both retire? Although we'll then probably have to endure Carney

The level of delusion in Wigan over Danny McGuire never ceases to amaze. Perhaps the most generous in the league with his charity work off field and one of the most respected professionals on it from players of all clubs. To line him up with Flower, Hardaker, Chase etc is embarrassing

On topic, Flower committed the lost notorious British RL foul of the Super League era, taking the honour from Mick Cassidy. The sport has been remarkable in the support it has given him but you, and he, cannot expect him to be able to fly under the radar of the wider sports media in the same way as other players.

Lol even Leeds fans were agreeing that McGuire is a niggly little runt on their own forum a while ago.

Take off ya pie specs....

How could he grab someone with h's fist

He was 6 inches away, if he was trying to punch Westwood he wouldn't have missed!

You'll have to let us know how he gets on at the disciplinary hearing....oh wait!

Take your anti pie specs off.

Perhaps we are own worst enemies with this thread,

RFL disciplinary = no charge
says it all really