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Quote: Father Ted "Atkins rarely plays right centre and Waney will avoid putting Gildart against him anyway.
Having said that Gildart and Manfredi on the left look defensively vulnerable.

Hope he rests MM and goes with Powell at 9, interchage with Smith meaning Hampshire off the bench to the halves.'"



Ted I don't think that is how it will work out if Hampshire is on the bench, he will start with Powell at 9 and when the interchange comes it will be Hampshire to go to dummy half, Wane did this before.
What Wane should do is as you say, but Wane seems to terrified or to stubborn to pair Williams and Hampshire has at halfback combination, he is either frightened of them being to inexperienced or the other reason for not using the combination I will leave you to figure out.

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Quote: stillinthepast "Ted I don't think that is how it will work out if Hampshire is on the bench, he will start with Powell at 9 and when the interchange comes it will be Hampshire to go to dummy half, Wane did this before.
What Wane should do is as you say, but Wane seems to terrified or to stubborn to pair Williams and Hampshire has at halfback combination, he is either frightened of them being to inexperienced or the other reason for not using the combination I will leave you to figure out.'"

There is no way he play Hampshire at 6 at any point in the game.
I find this totally baffling

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He should, for once, play Hampshire at half back.
Wire are all over the place at hb even with Sandow on board.
If Powell starts at 9 then it should be Smith that goes there on interchange.
Against Wire Williams and Hampshire are a dream ticket as Wire have no pace anywhere near the middle. George and Ryan could and probably would tear Wire apart with their pace.
As you say though, alas there is no chance Waney will pair those two at hlf back.
Perhaps as "Stillinthepast" says. It's not Hampshire's build or lack of, it's the "Other" reason he won't play them together.

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I'm struggling to think of any coach who would pair two rookies at half back and why SW gets so much stick. He should be praised for his use of Williams this season. It wasn't so long ago that the sainted Madge used to play Lockers at half back rather than give a youngster the chance. No coach in the modern game has given more youngsters a go.

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "I'm struggling to think of any coach who would pair two rookies at half back and why SW gets so much stick. He should be praised for his use of Williams this season. It wasn't so long ago that the sainted Madge used to play Lockers at half back rather than give a youngster the chance. No coach in the modern game has given more youngsters a go.'"


Don't be ridiculous!!!! He NEVER plays the team i think he should, and knows nothing about the game... It's not like he knows any of these players, or can assess their capabilities on a day to day basis... I doubt he has ever even talked to them....

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Quote: Wigan Peer "Don't be ridiculous!!!! He NEVER plays the team i think he should, and knows nothing about the game... It's not like he knows any of these players, or can assess their capabilities on a day to day basis... I doubt he has ever even talked to them....'"

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "

You know, i almost believe that some fans were relieved that Flower buggered up the GF last year... Almost.

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "I'm struggling to think of any coach who would pair two rookies at half back and why SW gets so much stick. He should be praised for his use of Williams this season. It wasn't so long ago that the sainted Madge used to play Lockers at half back rather than give a youngster the chance. No coach in the modern game has given more youngsters a go.'"


I'll make the bold predication that in 10/20 years no one will be talking about Shaun Wane. He'll be assigned to the history books and remembered as much as former coaches like Betts, Endacott, Raper etc are.

What is almost certain however is that people will be talking about the great foreign coaches that have transformed the club and they'll talk about Lowe, Monie and Madge when they do.

Wane might however be talked about as the coach who let Hampshire leave. When it's then said Matty Smith kept him out of the side it's going to be a WTF was he thinking type of comment that will undoubtedly follow.

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "I'm struggling to think of any coach who would pair two rookies at half back and why SW gets so much stick. He should be praised for his use of Williams this season. It wasn't so long ago that the sainted Madge used to play Lockers at half back rather than give a youngster the chance. No coach in the modern game has given more youngsters a go.'"

I am a SW fan and ordinarily I would agree that to play 2 rookies at half back could be deemed to be asking for trouble however, we have never tried the combination so how do we know it wouldn't work?
My frustration isn't that they don't play together every week but for god's sake lets at least give them a chance.
Can anyone genuinely say that they have enjoyed our performances this year? All I want is the chance of these two youngsters to add some sparkle to our attack. It isn't like we are trying to polish a turd as the basics are there and SW just needs to give the combination a chance to shine rather than wither on the vine.

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Quote: Itchy Arsenal "I am a SW fan and ordinarily I would agree that to play 2 rookies at half back could be deemed to be asking for trouble however, we have never tried the combination so how do we know it wouldn't work?
My frustration isn't that they don't play together every week but for god's sake lets at least give them a chance.
Can anyone genuinely say that they have enjoyed our performances this year? All I want is the chance of these two youngsters to add some sparkle to our attack. It isn't like we are trying to polish a turd as the basics are there and SW just needs to give the combination a chance to shine rather than wither on the vine.'"


Well, i'd be sorely tempted..

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Quote: sergeant pepper "I'll make the bold predication that in 10/20 years no one will be talking about Shaun Wane. He'll be assigned to the history books and remembered as much as former coaches like Betts, Endacott, Raper etc are.

What is almost certain however is that people will be talking about the great foreign coaches that have transformed the club and they'll talk about Lowe, Monie and Madge when they do.

Wane might however be talked about as the coach who let Hampshire leave. When it's then said Matty Smith kept him out of the side it's going to be a WTF was he thinking type of comment that will undoubtedly follow.'"

Just checking. Did Betts, Raper and Endacott win the double? I think that's how he might be remembered. That's definitely in the history books.

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Wane won the double? Don't think you've ever mentioned that before.

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "Just checking. Did Betts, Raper and Endacott win the double? I think that's how he might be remembered. That's definitely in the history books.'"


Just like John Dorahy then.......

What Wane won was nothing to do with him. It was the last achievement of Maguire's side.

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Quote: sergeant pepper "Just like John Dorahy then.......

What Wane won was nothing to do with him. It was the last achievement of Maguire's side.'"

Talk about rewriting history.

You might as well say 2010 was Brian Noble's team.

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Quote: Wigg'n "Wane won the double? Don't think you've ever mentioned that before.'"

Well, it seems that some posters have very short memories and are in a state of denial about Wane's achievements

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