The reason i'm pushing this mostly on SW is because we've seen his favouritism before.

Player A has a bad game (Smith, Joel, Williams, Sarge etc) and there's no comments from Wane in the press and they don't get dropped. Player B (pick from Josh, Hampshire or Gelling) has a bad game and all of a sudden Wane is either wielding his axe or he's out with the 'rocks and diamond's' BS.

I really feel for Josh on this one. His MEN article screams to me like someone who needs a confidence boost and days like today aren't helping anyone. He'll have seen the support given to Budgie in the early part of this season and he'll wonder why he's not getting that same backing.

To keep Bowen in the squad and to drop Charnley just baffles me. Like others have said on here if he wanted to bring Manfredi back then bring him in at FB for Bowen has probably had 5/10 decent Wigan games in his time here!

Your face either fits or it doesn't with Wane.

Didn't Wane drop both budgie and Williams earlier in the season?
Josh has been poor for some time now and as far as i recall this is the first time he's been "dropped".

I can't disagree that Bowen should be dropped. I was a big defender of his last year, especially when he kept scoring those breakaway tries, but the truth is he isn't doing one of the key things he was signed for - providing a solid last line of defence. I think he's finished.

It's true that Josh hasn't scored as many tries as we are used to recently but that may just have something to do with the fact that he's not been passed the blasted ball. Sounds like he is being singled out for the loss to Saints and God knows why - totally out of order unless whoever wrote the article hasn't told the full story. One things for certain there wouldn't be any shortage of clubs happy to have him on their books if our management have a brain storm. Not happy

Not sure about Williams but i know Budgie was dropped for one game but that was after what felt like a prolonged period of bad form. I'm sure, if my memory is correct, Budgie might have gifted the opposition a couple of tries with loose carries?

BTW i'm not knocking Budgie here - he's actually proof that someone can come out the other side of adversity, if they are given support and backing.

It's all subjective at the moment in time but what happens if Wane pushes this too much with Charnley to the point where Josh doesn't think he can work with him? Wane is playing a very dangerous game seeing that the club has already lost a top winger, i certainly don't want to see another leave.

The sensible option imo is to keep Josh on the wing and put Manfredi in at FB. Manfredi is an excellent kick return guy with great hands which is more than can we said of Bowen.

All players are droppable regardless of age if there is someone better in the squad.

Joe and Dom are/ were on their last respective displays showing the kind if form that we have not seen from Josh in over a season and a half.

What confidence?

Refarding Josh and his loss of form, he hasn't had any form since Sam left. His Twitter statement doesn't help his cause, I don't know if it's still the same? full time farmer part time rugby player, I bet that went down well!

Our right side needs swapping round with bateman at centre and tomkins at second row,bateman is more nimble in defence and therefore wouldnt get stood up as easily but its all down to wanes stuborness

Can someone tell me the last time that Manfredi played fullback at any level?

Same could be said for Hampshire but it was decided he was going to play FB.

Hampshire didn't play in Catalan.



What makes you think that Charnley was the only one called into Wanes office this week, or in the past few weeks?

On the Wigan site it says that Josh has scored 137 tries in 133 games for the club.
Now he thinks his career with Wigan is at a crossroads?
Who in hells name has made him feel like that?
We have three great wingmen and one is leaving at the season's end. Of the two remaining one feels that his career at Wigan is at the crossroads? Well someone should have pointed him in the right direction a very long time before now.
He's had injuries, hardly had a pass these past few weeks. He got two passes at Hudds and scored two tries.
If the club want the best from Charnley perhaps they should try and change his inside man as Joel as hard as he tries is never a centre. We're playing Salford, Josh at centre to Manfredi would be a risk but not one that should put the result in danger.
Poor decision to drop him from the 19 in view of the way the Saints game ended in such a shambles.

I suppose for the Salford game we're back to same old, same old which will be repeated the following week.

My mistake he played against Hull KR and then was dropped for Catalan. Same argument applies regardless of if i got the games right or wrong.

I'm sure others were called into Wane's office as well. It just appears at this moment in time Charnley is the only who has been dropped which is wrong imo.

For me it's another example of how out of his depth Wane is as a coach.

No issue with the decision personally, I thought Charnley was poor to non existent on Friday. If Manfredi is fit it's an easy choice.