Yeah ok, Sam owes it all to two centres, that's why he's become a world class FB previous MOS etc.

Very harsh on Sarge if you ask me, a lot of players wouldn't come close to how good Carmont was for Wigan. I think going forward, Sarginson is great. He's got quick feet, good hands, it's just a case of making the right call on whether to pass or stick for him. It's his defensive side of his game that's the worry for me. Sam will be just fine. (like anyone was really doubting that he wouldn't be!) Gells will relish having a full back who'll be able to put him through gaps and will be very hard to stop for someone of his size.

Sarge is largely blind going forward. He needs to be a winger or a full back who gets the ball for the scoring pass, not the one whose position ought to be about giving it 70% of the time. Carmont was simply a proper centre. And as such he stood out in a league that has very few proper centres.

Gelling isn't a wingers centre either. I am sure someone can post some stats about how many assists the pair of them have but whatever the numbers I am not convinced.

And what was I suggesting firstly about Daz?

I'm not saying all the assists have come from the centres but they can't be doing too bad a job when our wingers have 30+ try's between them in 17 games.

I sat here around this time last year and didn't think either Gelling or Sarginson would make a centre. Fast forward 12 months and both have come in leaps and bounds with the subtleties of the position and both are young enough and inexperienced enough in the role to kick on a couple more levels.

I doubt George Carmont at 23/24 was the same George Carmont we knew at 30.