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Quote: Mugwump ""Honest" Tony Clubb is precisely that. A first choice prop for a mid-table team.'"


If that is what Clubb is, how do you describe Masoe, Thompson, and Richards? Whose stats are well behind Clubb. Clubb has played one less game than Masoe but has stats better than his, including average gain in which your regular "impact" prop could be rated from. His stats dwarf Thompson and Richards.

If Savelio could make 180yards each game as you allude to he would walk into your 17 every week.

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Quote: Phuzzy "The only thing that's starting to sound silly is your complete corruption of the facts. We stood up against Brisbane without Flower, O'Loughlin and Mossop. We didn't dominate but you wouldn't expect us to with those 3 missing, but we did stand up. In comparison, your pack was mauled by Souths. Now take Walmsley, Amor and your best player, Roby out of your starting line up and how much worse would you have been. Given you were already humiliated with a near full strength pack, I dread to think! Our starting props against Brisbane were Crosby and Sutton. Do I really need to spell this out to you? I know you're not the idiot you seem hell bent on making yourself out to be...'"


I'm not just talking about Brisbane. At no point in the last twelve months have I seen Wigan's front three show the kind of raw physicality which was a key component of your title winning year. Surely you've noticed this?

Quote: Phuzzy "Secondly stop referring to the GF as some sort of marker of the respective packs. If you want to compare use the ONLY time anything near to the full strength packs went against each other last season. What happened then? You do remember Good Friday don't you? The day you were 'taken to school'?'"


You do realise the entire competition is based upon building toward one single match that decides the champion team? Given that every coach understands this concept why WOULDN'T YOU judge the absolute merits of victor and vanquished? If you can't figure out which team has the better set of forwards - IN THE GRAND FINAL - when can you?

Quote: Phuzzy "There's no doubt that the Saints pack are looking good this time around. I think you've recruited well in Vea and Greenwood and Walmsley are both looking the business. However, as I've said previously, let our first choice pack at least take the field before making such ridiculous claims. This is the style of pack that has taken us to 2 Grand Finals. I know you're into rewriting history but even you can't deny that it must be getting something right!'"


As I've said - I'm not basing my judgement on a handful of games. I mean, by all means - convince yourself that Wigan's front three is as dominant today (at full strength) as it was when you won the title. But please, leave me out.

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Looking at Mossop and Clubb's stats last night.

QED.

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Quote: Mugwump "I'm not just talking about Brisbane. At no point in the last twelve months have I seen Wigan's front three show the kind of raw physicality which was a key component of your title winning year. Surely you've noticed this?

You do realise the entire competition is based upon building toward one single match that decides the champion team? Given that every coach understands this concept why WOULDN'T YOU judge the absolute merits of victor and vanquished? If you can't figure out which team has the better set of forwards - IN THE GRAND FINAL - when can you?

As I've said - I'm not basing my judgement on a handful of games. I mean, by all means - convince yourself that Wigan's front three is as dominant today (at full strength) as it was when you won the title. But please, leave me out.'"


Sorry mugwump but Phuzzy has well and truly owned you.

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Quote: Ovavoo "Sorry mugwump but Phuzzy has well and truly owned you.'"


You'd best tell SL's statistician. 5.32568359375:5
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