I know nothing with regards to his injury, as the majority of people won't unless they are associated directly with the club or Josh personally, but at this stage there has been nothing to suggest that there is anything deceitful going on. If this was rumbling on for months and there was nothing coming out of the club then fair enough, but not 4 days after he was carried from the field obviously in a lot of pain. Whether he moves on after this season or not is completely irrelevent.

Without wishing to turn this into a round-and-round argument, it was a fair enough question to ask.

All through the start of this season, as seemingly with the start of every season, we've been inundated with rumours about players either wanting to go to the NRL or RU. We heard - whether it was true or not is another matter - that Josh's agent was openly looking for an Aussie club for him. The response on here was that we are sick of players trying to leave their contracts early and why don't we get tough, etc.

It wasn't totally unreasonable to wonder if maybe the club had got tough and that Josh was sulking as a result - especially as we were told first it was a two-week injury, and then suddenly it has expanded to nine weeks.

If he's badly hurt, I am very, very sorry him, and for us. But I'd prefer that to it being a case of Josh playing the old soldier, as that's the kind of hurt that doesn't heal (Carney being a prime example).

I don't wish to come over as being cynical, but I don't think we can be blamed. Much of it is groundless rumour, I agree, but there seems to be a permanent open season on Wigan's star players.

Cruncher I think you have explained your point well mate but I still can't agree with you. Whether or not a player wants to better himself in another competition is no reason to question his integrity, especially as in this case Josh has done nothing to add any fuel to that fire. He's given a lot to the club and as you say is one of our star players. The lad got hurt, it was clear to see and if it's 2 weeks or 9 weeks doesn't mean it's ok to question his integrity.

The latest bit of news on Josh's injury I can find is on the Wigan Today website from yesterday and quotes Wane as saying “We’ve had some news. We’ve not had lots of detail. We’ll assess it further on in the week but there’s nothing really sinister in the injury so hopefully it will only be a couple of weeks but we’ll have more of an idea this week.” so I don't understand where people are getting 9 weeks from at this stage.

Before Friday he was starting to find his feet and get back up to speed IMO, after a very short pre-season and a hernia operation. I wasn't intending to have a go at you personally, there was another post along similar lines I just quoted yours as it was the latest, but it now seems that every bit of news that comes out of the club has to have some underlying deceitful conspiracy theory alongside it.

Cynical!!! Well yes!!! Is it surprising with the rubbish that comes out of the Wigan club. Furthermore living in Northern Ireland I have to rely on forum boards for information on players.

Like many other posters, I have refrained from posting in recent years, as there are too many posters only too willing to post a offensive reply. Wouldn't it have been better to start message without the offensive first sentence? I would have been grateful though for just the info on his injury.

Charnley confirmed out for at least 2 months.

According to the report on SSN Dom Manfredi will play in his place this Friday! Didn't think his month was quite up yet but glad to hear he's available.

No ligament damage for Charnley so he shouldn't be too long I'd have thought. We can certainly cope for the next 6 weeks or so.

That is very good news.

14th March when Manfredi last played for Salford so his 4 weeks is up this Friday.

Really looking forward to seeing what Manfredi can do. I'm sure he's looked at the success of Joe Burgess and thought 'I'd love a bit of that' and he's now probably going to get 6-8 games to really make a name for himself.

He's got a lot about him IMO and will grasp his chance with both hands.

I'd play Sarginson outside Goulding and leave thornley & burgess to keep working on their partnership.

Me too, but Wane likes to give the kids their chance.

It was a very brief outing for Sarginson on the wing at Dewsbury but he wasn't overly impressive IMO. His defensive positioning was poor for their try and I'd rather play a natural wingman there rather then a stop gap. If we were to do that I'd stick Sarginson at centre and put Goulding out there who has plenty of experience in the position.

Goulding is the best winger's centre we have. Thornley has a tendency to be too greedy. I would much sooner play Sarginson/Manfredi on the wing and see what they can do when given the ball.