Just the coaching?
Its widely reported that Koukash personally has a go at the players when they lose. Isnt that undermining the coach?

I don't understand this appointment from Salford's point of view.

Koukash has money to burn so if he wanted a new coach why not try and do what Wigan have done in the past and bring in someone who can really offer something new? I am talking about how we did it with Lowe in the 80's and Madge replacing Noble. Look at the difference they both had and Madge turned a virtually identical team Noble has into GF & CC winners.

This appointment would not inspire me as a Salford fan. I am not saying Harris doesn't have the potential to be a good coach but I can't see him being as influential as Lowe or Madge were at Wigan in terms of shaping a side with potential into real contenders.

I couldn't agree more, very odd....

Totally agree with this

Does anyone actually believe that Nobby was ever a good coach?

IMO he took over Matty Elliot at the Bulls and of a squad of players that didn't require any "super coach" in charge at that time as they were such a star studded bunch of players

Nobby has never ever left any lasting legacy junior wise at any club he has been at, and he is only a short term coach at best

His immediate improved performances of a poor Crusaders squad and there best ever finish surely indicate this do they not?

I actually think that Harris will be a great head coach, although he will be thoroughly tested at Salford by Dr Kockrash

At Wigan, Nobby was better than we'd had before in Millward and Betts. He re-energised the squad and re-organised the team. He was also good in publicity terms. But the oft-quoted cliche about him having no Plan B became evident after a while. Tactically, he was weak, and his limitations became apparent when the new-look Wigan team started challenging for trophies again but were never able to go the last few yards. There were also stories about him feeling challenged by Trent Barrett, and basically denying him involvement in match planning, which anyone with knowledge of the game would realise was ridiculous - Barrett was a treasure trove of strategy, which we could have made much better use of.

The other thing is - Maguire came along and in one season turned the team Nobby had failed to win trophies with into Champions.

I still think Nobby did his bit in resurrecting Wigan as serious contenders, but only the way Alex Murphy did in the early 80s - restoring their self-belief, before a much better coach came along and turned that into worthwhile silver.

It will be interesting to see how Harris & Long combine, & for how long.

Could be interesting when we play them as Harris knows us inside out, letting one of our management team go to the opposition at this point in the season seems strange when we wouldn't let Hock play against us last year!

No, I don't. People forget when he came here in 2006 he came with Fielden and Dobson. I doubt he'd have pulled us out of the fire without the addition of those two players.

I started raising doubts on here in the 2007 season as the longer it progressed the more obvious it became we looked very average when with the players we had we should have been playing better. I also questioned his recruitment of players like Millard and Withers who were past it.

This wasn't a popular stance to be taking given he saved us from relegation but ultimately it was proved right as we had three years of underachievement and Barretts time here was wasted by Noble.

His policy of playing his favourites whenever at the expense of giving young players a chance was just awful. He blamed Golding for a defeat at Leeds and we hardly saw him again (I think he was injured for part of the time but even when he had recovered his face clearly didn't fit).

It's easy to forget these things when you just think he saved us from relegation but looking at his tenure here with all the resources he had at his disposal, the lack of success and how Madge turned a virtually identical team around should have convinced anyone he isn't that good a coach.

Noble is a dated coach and was never gonna take Salford forward. The Doctor clearly knows nothing about rugby and throwing money at the names of rugby league past will not win titles. There is no long term plan, he thinks buying names will win a title. He needs to be realistic and build. Harris will do nothing because to deal with the problem personalities that team has needs a disciplinarian and Harris isnt it !!

The Bulls squad Noble had was never the best squad of players in the league. Saints had a far better squad. Noble's era coincided with Saints at their absolute peak with Cunningham, Sculthorpe, Long, Wellens, Albert, Britt and so on. I think Saints underachieved in that era because Millward wasn't up to it.

Noble won three SL titles in five years, two World Club Challenges and a Challenge Cup which made Bradford the most successful side of the era, which was a good return for a good bunch of players but not a great bunch. There were guys in that team like Naylor, McAvoy, Shane Rigon, who you would not have put amongst the very elite. Their best back was Michael Withers for a while!

Vainakolo, Hape, Henry Paul?

Interesting comments from nobby on the bbc before the game today, felt like hi was unfairly sacked and wouldn't comment more because he needed to speak to his lawyers...

Watching the 2001 grand final the commentators reference Bradford as big game bottlers. It seems it wasn't until Noble took over that they really got over the hump and became a champion team. They had won the cup the previous year under Elliot.

With us he turned the team at the bottom of the table when he took over into the third best team in the league. We did underachieve though as shown by Maguire.

Then he took over Crusaders and made the respectable and qualified for the playoffs. He's not had long enough at salford to prove anything either way but from his history i'd say he certainly has been a good coach, not great and he may have had his time.

The Doc is salfords saviour but he will also be there downfall with erratic decisions like this.

We all Noble wasnt the answer but what is needed is someone with a huge pair of Balls to stand up to the Doc and that IMO will only come from the NRL whos coaches have arrogance beyond belief but can back it up , Madge / Leneghan springs to mind