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Let others look back, we are looking forward....

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And their double winning side wasn't a patch on our all conquering sides of the 80's/90's but as they used to tell us 'why live in the past'.

We are the best side 'now' and that's all that matters!

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Can we be the worst team in the history of sport to win the CC/GF/LLS in any combination

For what it's worth I think the Smith/Green combination is a great balance.
Hopefully the current crop of young fans will be talking about watching the great Smith/Green partnership, how a young Micky Mac would have graced any side. How the young wigan side that were written off at the start of the season beat Hull at wembley in atrocious weather. Ground down and negated the leagues most consist side in Huddersfield, we're streetwise and clever enough to win against the then most successfully team in SL history and went on to beat arguably the most consistent team of that era in Warrington in the GF going 14 points down then scoring 28 unanswered points.
I'm happy with that

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Get it etched on a cup and shove it in the trophy cabinet...... If you can find room!!

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: grovelane "To be honest they might have a point. Look at the teams below. There are more from the 2003 / 2006 teams I would have in the side above the current players;

Paul Wellens Sam Tomkins
Ade Gardner Josh Charnley
Jamie Lyon Darrell Goulding
Willie Talau Iain Thornley
Francis Meli Pat Richards
Leon Pryce Blake Green
Sean Long Matty Smith
Paul Anderson Gil Dudson
Keiron Cunningham Micky McIlorum
Jason Cayless Lee Mossop
Lee Gilmour Harrison Hansen
Jon Wilkin Liam Farrell
Jason Hooper Sean O'Loughlin

James Roby Jack Hughes
James Graham Ben Flower
Mike Bennett Scott Taylor
Maurie Fa'asavalu Dom Cosby
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Stuart Reardon Sam Tomkins
Tevita Vaikona Josh Charnley
Michael Withers Darrell Goulding
Shontayne Hape Iain Thornley
Lesley Vainakolo Pat Richards
Karl Pratt Blake Green
Paul Deacon Matty Smith
Joe Vangana Gil Dudson
James Lowes Micky McIlorum
Stuart Fielden Lee Mossop
Daniel Gartner Harrison Hansen
Jamie Peacock Liam Farrell
Mike Forshaw Sean O'Loughlin

Leon Pryce Jack Hughes
Robbie Paul Ben Flower
Lee Radford Scott Taylor
Paul Anderson Dom Cosby
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The benches were far stronger back then too.'"

Bit harsh on Jimmy Lowes, he was class!

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[quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]Wellens[/quote:3hoggrzp]:7007.jpg



Quote: NickyKiss "And their double winning side wasn't a patch on our all conquering sides of the 80's/90's but as they used to tell us 'why live in the past'.

We are the best side 'now' and that's all that matters!'"


Living in the past is fun though... especially when you're a supporter of the current champs AND the most successful British club in history!

Here's one of my favourite Wigan sides (including the pack that beat Australia in the Melbourne test and the best centre/wing partnership I've ever seen):

Hampson
Botica
Bell
Miles
Offiah
Botica
Edwards
Skerrett
Dermott
Platt
Betts
McGinty
Clarke

Just some potential subs

Myers
Panapa
Cowie
Lucas
Lydon
Forshaw

Good times!

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Quote: Deano G "Living in the past is fun though... especially when you're a supporter of the current champs AND the most successful British club in history!

Here's one of my favourite Wigan sides (including the pack that beat Australia in the Melbourne test and the best centre/wing partnership I've ever seen):

Hampson
Botica
Bell
Miles
Offiah
Botica
Edwards
Skerrett
Dermott
Platt
Betts
McGinty
Clarke

Just some potential subs

Myers
Panapa
Cowie
Lucas
Lydon
Forshaw

Good times!


Yeah but Offiah is no Ade Gardner and Mike Bennett would have walked a bench spot at least!

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When Wigan won all those trophies in the 80s and 90s you still get fans from other clubs (not me though) that want to cheapen that achievement by saying Wigan just spent the most money, bought up all the big name players, the rest of the league was part time and so on. The implication is that Wigan had some sort of unfair advantage and it wasn't a fair playing field.

Nobody can say that this time though.

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"Wigan Athletic - No known famous fans. The town (of Wigan) apparently goes into hibernation when the Rugby League season ends!" Daily Mail Online feature, July 2009 ------------------------------------------------------------- They will not force us, They will stop degrading us, They will not control us, WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS! ............ Wigan RLFC - The Uprising! ----------------------------------------------------------- Wigan footballer Mohamed Diame described the home of mint balls and pies as 'cr**py'. But Tomkins boomed: "I don't want to know what he thinks. I don't even know his name. He only plays for Latics.":16522.jpg



3 big problems for stains though:

1. We don't play on paper,
2. Stains, as a good team, have the record of losing 5 Grand Finals on the trot - they can't even get there nowadays to lose!
3. They have 'Disco Dave' in charge now, so only have a bad dress sense to look forward to.

Stains - the club where every cup has a saucer!

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"Wigan Athletic - No known famous fans. The town (of Wigan) apparently goes into hibernation when the Rugby League season ends!" Daily Mail Online feature, July 2009 ------------------------------------------------------------- They will not force us, They will stop degrading us, They will not control us, WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS! ............ Wigan RLFC - The Uprising! ----------------------------------------------------------- Wigan footballer Mohamed Diame described the home of mint balls and pies as 'cr**py'. But Tomkins boomed: "I don't want to know what he thinks. I don't even know his name. He only plays for Latics.":16522.jpg



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The Bradford team looks really good but this is our team they beat 25 12 in the grand final

radlinski
carney
hodgson
aspinwall
dallas
o'loughlin
robinson
pongia
newton
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cassidy
tickle
farrell

o'conner
hock
smith
johnson

I think our current team would maul a side with Aspinwall and Hodgson in the centres and Robinson and O'Loughlin in the halves never mind Tickle and Smith. Even then Bradford resorted to Westwood style tactics with Pryce taking out Carney.

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[quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]Wellens[/quote:3hoggrzp]:7007.jpg



Quote: sally cinnamon "When Wigan won all those trophies in the 80s and 90s you still get fans from other clubs (not me though) that want to cheapen that achievement by saying Wigan just spent the most money, bought up all the big name players, the rest of the league was part time and so on. The implication is that Wigan had some sort of unfair advantage and it wasn't a fair playing field.

Nobody can say that this time though.'"


When people say that I just laugh. "It's not fair!" Life isn't fair. "Wigan bought all the best players" No we didn't. "The rest of the league was part time" No it wasn't. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: sally cinnamon "When Wigan won all those trophies in the 80s and 90s you still get fans from other clubs (not me though) that want to cheapen that achievement by saying Wigan just spent the most money, bought up all the big name players, the rest of the league was part time and so on. The implication is that Wigan had some sort of unfair advantage and it wasn't a fair playing field.

Nobody can say that this time though.'"


It wasn't true then either. Widnes and Leeds (especially Leeds) spent a fortune on players. Widnes had Deveraux, Myler Sorenson, Davies and before he joined us Lydon and plenty more top players. They had some great players and games v then were never a foregone conclusion. Wire had Des Drummond and others including Mike Gregory and I remember one year Wigan only lost two league games, both to Wire. We won the league on points difference from Bradford once so people (including our own fans at times) have a very odd memory of how it really was back then.

I remember Wigan employing Bill Hartley as a sprint coach because it was thought if he could teach the players how to run properly he could get an extra yard of pace out of them.

It's never been just money that has led to success at Wigan because a professional attitude and approach has always been equally important.

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