The LLS a great thought but I'm beginning to worry that we have a mediocre team with a great coach, or a mediocre coach and a great team, neither of which are cutting in high pressure games.
The last few weeks have made me question our team leadership, discipline and ability to react when it's not going right or am I way off the mark

I can't believe that I am reading this thread, a lost game against Warrington started a debate about how the league doesn't matter, but today it's the end of the world a week before the CC semi.

What would fans preferred to have seen? Risking key players who failed fitness tests to win a game against St. Helens or taking the risk and potentially fielding a weakened team against London?

I'm going for the former, key players out injured, captain off after 25mins etc.

It's not like Saints raised their game is it? I particularly enjoyed Eddies "It's Stain's biggest game of the season".

We it's like me saying you remind me of a part-time fan! How does that sound??

I thought the same to be honest with regards to throwing Micky Mac back on with about 13 minutes to go but regardless of this i would disagree with anyone who says Logan had a bad game because he didnt, ive been quite impressed of late when hes played he's getting much sharper around the play the ball and he's becoming much more creative. Micky Mac will always be NO.1 but we have a quality deputy making waves.

To put in context. We put out a weakened team, Stains put out the best side they could and scrapped a win. And, we were a man short at a crucial time in the game.

Ill disciplined and rudderless sums up that performance for me.

After last night I'd put us favourites to win nowt this season.

Matty Smith was utterly terrible last night. Tried to go on his own every time he got the ball and the one time he did pass it on we scored. His kicking game was atrocious as well.

Wanes big mistake last night was not putting Powell on the bench.

It's their Cup final I suppose.

They don't know that Wigan have moved on and now their big derby is the Wolfs.

The forwards let us down in the first half, LMS was having a field day. Same story with Bateman for Bradford the other week, he took the p*ss and Cas knocked the front row all over the place.

I thought Taylor did well when he came on, got us going forward and Faz seemed to take a drive up almost every set. Mossop had a couple of big drives late on but not enough in the first 20 for me. The others were disappointing, especially Dudson who was well off the pace.

We did well to fight our way back and take the lead but just at the point I sensed we could settle the game down, we lost the plot. It was a bit of a worry not to finish that game strongly as I don’t feel saints played that well and we should have been able to stretch them a lot more than we did.

We were down to 12 from the 67 min mark to the 77 min... Were you not watching the game!!!

I think Faz needs not a week off but a month off the lad looks bolloxed, and the sky pundits picked up on this too, he was being used as a prop virtually all game we cant afford to burn him any more we need him to be up to speed for the play-offs. I know the lad is probably our best athlete but for me the lad needs to be rested.

both teams were missing their 2 best players.

Yep! and we beat them too and Leeds. Last night we had far more players missing than you. You seem lost without Lockers and Sam.