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I've just watched the recording of the game.

Does anyone else think Sam's kick at goal was inside the posts?
Just do a freeze frame.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I've just watched the recording of the game.

Does anyone else think Sam's kick at goal should was inside the posts?
Just do a freeze frame.'"

Yes thought that about 1 o'clock this morning but my head was nodding to one side icon_smile.gif suppose the thing is Sam didn't show any surprise so presume it was the camera angle, also one of Pat's kicks looked wide on tv I think but it was given, perhaps the Hull player was not stood in front of the kicker, those camera angles can't be trusted, they also move the white lines about 5m icon_smile.gif

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I really can't make my mind up about last night and if we were lucky to win or unlucky not to win by more.

On the one had there were a lot of half breaks and near misses for us. I lost count of the amount of times Sam made a half break but was tackled by some committed last ditch defence. We also should have scored when Charnley broke down the wing in the 2nd half or when Lockers off loaded straight into the hands of Moon. Again instances of desperation/dogged defence by Leeds kept them in the hunt. If we'd have been a touch more clinical then the score line could have been a lot more comfortable. Green probably would have made the difference there.

That being said Leeds were missing Ablett, Delaney and JP who i think are massive players for them. JP and Delaney in particular are real warriors and would have kept coming back at us with venom all night. Let's not forget that the game rested on a correct video ref decision that maybe in another game wouldn't have been picked up on. With the above in mind and also factoring in we failed to register any points in the whole of the 2nd half we can count ourselves somewhat lucky as well.

Very nice to pick up our 1st big win of the season BUT we have to massively improve on that for the play offs. If we fail to register any points for a full 40 mins in the playoffs we will be out.

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Interesting that according to Sky's commentary team Wigan's last 10 wins were achieved without having played anyone at the top of the table. However, it does include victories over St Helens (who Leeds failed to beat when they last played them), and Hull away - and it will be interesting to see how the Rhinos fare in that fixture next weekend.

Something about Eddie and Stevo stinks to the absolute core at present.

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it's chip paper now, and Leeds lost that game. We still need that "certain something" Leeds have had when shutting out a game, but we are getting there. That said, their pivot players are getting older, we have heaps of energy and back up players who can step up too the plate. Good day at the office.

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Quote: Cruncher "Interesting that according to Sky's commentary team Wigan's last 10 wins were achieved without having played anyone at the top of the table. However, it does include victories over St Helens (who Leeds failed to beat when they last played them), and Hull away - and it will be interesting to see how the Rhinos fare in that fixture next weekend.

Something about Eddie and Stevo stinks to the absolute core at present.'"


It all depends on what side you sit or what you see.

For me Hull FC are currently hitting the straps but their current momentum only really started to grow during the tough fight they put up against us. Ellis coming back the week after our game has also boosted them. It was a good win for us but they weren't a major scalp.

Same goes for Saints. Of course it's always nice to beat them but they are a shadow of what they should be. You can't read to much into the Saints win vs Leeds as for me it seemed a one off fluke like the time Wigan under Noble always seemed to turn Leeds over. There is still a gulf in class between the likes of Wigan, Wire, Leeds and Hudds compared to Saints. Beating Saints on GF is always a must win/big game for Wigan but it's not a big scalp or good indication as to what we are like as a team.

Make no mistake last night was the first real test we've come up against in the 2nd half of the season and we've survived by the skin of our teeth.

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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



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That being said Leeds were missing Ablett, Delaney and JP who i think are massive players for them. JP and Delaney in particular are real warriors and would have kept coming back at us with venom all night. '"


And Ben Jones-Bishop icon_smile.gif

Great game though, best of the weekend by a mile.

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Quote: loiner81 "And Ben Jones-Bishop
I have to admit that i've not counted BJB as he's not in the same class yet as the others.

Vickery did ok last night lined up against Pat.

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What is McGuire's problem as of late? Every little thing he starts pushing and shoving at! He's really starting to grind my gears.

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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



Quote: sergeant pepper "I have to admit that i've not counted BJB as he's not in the same class yet as the others.

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WHAT?!!!!!!!!! d040.gif icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif

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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



Quote: lukeevans16 "What is McGuire's problem as of late? Every little thing he starts pushing and shoving at! He's really starting to grind my gears.'"


Dunno, maybe he's after a move to Wigan?

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Quote: loiner81 "WHAT?!!!!!!!!!
He's not as important for you as what JP or Delaney are. Both of the above are warriors who come to the forefront in big games like last night. I personally think you dropped off a little when Leuluai went off as it left Bailey to prove what a liability he really is. Peacock or Delaney would have kept coming at us.


It's not that i don't rate BJB as he's going to be a top draw player. Having said that Vickery did a very good job dealing with a former MOS in Richards last night.

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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



Quote: sergeant pepper "He's not as important for you as what JP or Delaney are. Both of the above are warriors who come to the forefront in big games like last night. I personally think you dropped off a little when Leuluai went off as it left Bailey to prove what a liability he really is. Peacock or Delaney would have kept coming at us.


It's not that i don't rate BJB as he's going to be a top draw player. Having said that Vickery did a very good job dealing with a former MOS in Richards last night.'"


Agreed re the forwards and we'll never know this but IMO if you take out Vickery and play BJB last night then Leeds would probably have scored at least 1 more try. Vickery did OK, if you consider not making an error as playing well at this level. icon_smile.gif

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Quote: loiner81 "Agreed re the forwards and we'll never know this but IMO if you take out Vickery and play BJB last night then Leeds would probably have scored at least 1 more try. Vickery did OK, if you consider not making an error as playing well at this level.
He took his chances as well as nullifying Pat as an aerial threat on the wing.

Either way there's obvious and easy improvements that Leeds can make to their side. That looks good for you as like i said in my OP you only lost the game by 4 points.

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