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| Nothing I haven't suspected (and posted) before.
Where are the happy clappers and IL defenders now?
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| Why should HE (IL) pay any more. His job is to try and make the club self sufficient.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Why should HE (IL) pay any more. His job is to try and make the club self sufficient.'"
Is it really?
I said it before, chairmen in RL are a likely to vote for an increase in the CC as turkeys would for Xmas.
They like to play the game on the cheap.
Ultimately they will have to increase it, and significantly or see their game dwindle into nothing.
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| People have been predicting RL's demise in this country for nearly 120 years. I'm sure it'll survive a good while longer despite a handful of players leaving to play in another comp.
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "Nothing I haven't suspected (and posted) before.
Where are the happy clappers and IL defenders now?'"
So if we go on to do great things this year, will someone preserve this post for posterity and resurrect it afterwards, the way they did with your posts when you forecast disaster because we'd just appointed Michael Maguire?
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| Once the rest of SL gets on our level then we/they can moan about our chairman not wanting to increase the cap.
Why should he? There's perhaps 4 or 5 teams in the league that can spend up to the current limit as it is.
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| Quote: P-J "There's perhaps 4 or 5 teams in the league that can spend up to the current limit as it is.'"
That's the problem. Only 4 or 5 clubs can spend what is, in real terms, less than 2/3 of the cap level when it was introduced. This suggests that a full time game is not sustainable in the medium/long term.
Like other posters, I think IL has done a great job in very many areas, but on the SC I fundamentally disagree with him.
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| Quote: cadoo "Well this sucks. How can this sport possibly grow then?
Collate as many DVD's of the days when world class talent like the Andy Farrell's, Steve Renouf's, Trent Barrett's, Adrian Lam's, Sam Tomkins', Keiron Cunningham's, Sean Long's, Paul Sculthorpe's, Jamie Lyon's, Lesley Vainikolo's of this world played RL in Super League because in two, possibly three years time it will all have gone to other competitions.'"
Yet those great names didn't result in rises in attendances. And they aren't big names outside of RL circles (other than Farrell's coaching in another sport). For which the administrators should hang their heads in shame.
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| Owning a club be it football, league or union is an honour. It is an act of philanthropy. Owners should permanently sacrifice a similar % of their wealth as we fans do.
A man (Arthur Thomas) recently died, who gave a large % of his wealth to Leigh and other clubs including ours. Who contributed more to RL, men like IL or men like AT. Yet on here we have some fans (mugs?) who want IL canonised.
BTW Ted, in his statement IL is already making an incorrect statement. I too remember that meeting, it was about what Trent was paid at the time. Never again he said. Yet, we now pay Sam exactly the same. Go figure Ted. Personally, I think both are/were worth it.
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| Quote: P-J "Once the rest of SL gets on our level then we/they can moan about our chairman not wanting to increase the cap.
Why should he? There's perhaps 4 or 5 teams in the league that can spend up to the current limit as it is.'"
Did you enjoy watching the likes of Ellery, Edwards, Gregory and so many more. In the RL world of IL you will never see the like again not in a Wigan team.
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| Quote: P-J "Once the rest of SL gets on our level then we/they can moan about our chairman not wanting to increase the cap.
Why should he? There's perhaps 4 or 5 teams in the league that can spend up to the current limit as it is.'"
The sport will be finished long before the rest of SL get to our level. There is competition from outside of SL that is already above our level and will keep getting further away if we wait for the rest to catch up.
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| IL and Hetherington have similar views precisely because there are only 4/5 clubs that can afford the current cap - meaning that all they'd do is fight amongst themselves for the same players.
I suspect they're also conscious of the fact that if the cap was raised, a lot of it would go to bog standard players. The idea that the entirety of any cap increase would go to lure/keep star players is a nonsense. Historically its always led to generic wage rises, including for those that TBH don't actually 'deserve' it on the basis of what they bring to the game.
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| Quote: Fylde_Warrior "
A man (Arthur Thomas) recently died, who gave a large % of his wealth to Leigh and other clubs including ours. Who contributed more to RL, men like IL or men like AT. Yet on here we have some fans (mugs?) who want IL canonised.'"
Not a good example as Arthur (rip) was involved with our club (Wigan) when we were at a very low ebb.
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| Wigan RL fandom - the only place where, overnight, a few casual utterances by a chairman famous for never revealing his full hand can be elevated to a national crisis.
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| Quote: Cruncher "So if we go on to do great things this year, will someone preserve this post for posterity and resurrect it afterwards, the way they did with your posts when you forecast disaster because we'd just appointed Michael Maguire?'"
And what would the point of that be? The issues being discussed in this thread are going to affect the game over the coming seasons and even if we win both the CC and GF these issues aren't going to go away and it won't stop our best players following Mossop. Are you are going to happy if Wigan are successful in a poor competition? Some people come across that way but I am surprised you appear to be one of them.
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