That's how I understand it as well. We are in the East, a couple of blocks in from the North and the rows behind us were virtually empty right up to the back. Mind you, we had to dig our car out to get here so the bad weather obviously put a lot of folk off. It was as cold as I can remember at a game for a long time.

The season ticket thing is how they do it elsewhere. At Ewood, we have gone from just short of 20k season ticket holders to around 10k in two to three seasons. Because of the continuing shenanigans with Venky's, many season ticket holders are still voting with their feet and not turning up. They are giving the attendance out as around 13k whereas, in reality, it's around the 9k mark.

I thought it was more 6k... South was absolutely empty and massive gaps on the East. I didn't even need to queue for a wee at half time!

Who gives a damn how many people attended they deserve a medal for turning out to watch the Rugby in the conditions we've had over the past few days, and if the clubs want to make a few bob on the back of it good luck to them.

From a personal point of view I wish they'd knock these Saturday night gams on the head.

Reality attendance I was told was just short of 7,000.

To quote an individual on a rival sports message board:

"When crowd figures get you additional league points, then I'll bother - until then laugh all you like - I couldnt give a toss".

Except that on that site, they are very willing to talk crowd figures right now!

The attendances figure announced is the people through the turnstiles. For health & safety reasons they cannot make it up. For example if there was a fire and people needed to be evacuated they need to know exact numbers. Same for if hospitals needing to know how many people were injured in a certain stand or whatever. They would need to alert staff at numbers expected if you know what I mean. In this day and age everything has to be accurate.

Arsenal announce their attendance as the number of people who bought a ticket.

It has nothing to do with H&S, the club will know exactly how many people entered the stadium yesterday.

Lets use common sense here - did it look like 12,000 to you ?

I thought it looked similar to the London game. I don't know what benefit the club get from saying the crowd is larger than it really was! I can understand saying its less but not more.

Latics lie about their attendances all the time, they give 3,000 free tickets away every game and they all count to the attendance whether they attend or not. Both Warriors & Latics count all the season tickets whether they attend or not. So that can't be right. Wigan lied about the attendance yesterday, there was never near 12,000 on.

whats wrong with an accurate figure...ie..number of clicks on the turnstiles?

What would be the point unless they were able to perform a head count of all those evacuated? While that wouldn't need too many fingers for Saturday's crowd I couldn't see it happening at, say, a Wigan-Sts derby.

Maybe Wigan could start getting every fan to 'Sign in' once we come through the turnstiles.. that would settle it..!!

Just think of the amount of Elvis Presley's we'd have