They are generous odds. I have a feeling they are putting all their eggs in into the Challenge Cup.

There is no way Leeds are playing for 5th. They want to be top 4 to either get the week off or 2nd chance.

Leeds used their get out of jail free card v Wigan in the semi. Sadly I think they will get well beaten in the final and fade out of the play-offs.

Really?
Did they also use it to beat the NRL champions?
Did they also use it last year to win the GF?

Quite an arrogant attitude imo. If I was a Leeds fan I would be asking you to carry on thinking that way.

So would anyone. I don't understand the point





Indeed it is. Pop over to the Leeds forum if you need proof.



And Nobby won nothing with that system at all did he? Oh wait...........

Nothing wrong with getting on a roll if you can keep it up until October. Sadly Wigan haven't been able to do that- once under Madge, but imo that had more to do with "first season shock" of the Aussie tactics than "rolling", instead we looked "flogged to death" in the CC Semi.




And in a "first past the post" system, that would make sense. It may not make sense under the present, relatively new system.



Not really, I would be more angry with the RFL for producing the conditions where this was a viable, arugably THE ONLY strategy for winning the GF.

I agree, Leeds are not playing for a lower position. However, they are not willing to aim for a higher position if it means impacting their chances of winning the GF.

What you have also got to look at is each individual teams squads, which undoubtably has an impact on strategy.

Leeds do not have "strength in depth". What they do have (the opposite of Wigan) are experienced big game players who can turn up when it matters.

They must play to this strength.

Just my opinion and the next ten weeks will see if I'm correct.

Give over. You're on Lenagan's back for the slightest thing.

In fact, the thought of you of all people calmly accepting a situation where Wigan were losing almost as many games as they were winning and not lambasting the club for it is off the scale in terms of ridiculous.

But I do agree that the current system is poor.

You may be right in the event. However, I think that dismissing the Leeds victory in the CC Semi as a "one-off" has already been proven to be incorrect.

if you think that Leeds were not trying to win last night, you were watching a different game to me and you need your head examined.

They just played badly, too many players went AWOL, that said, they almost pulled it off.

I wouldn't disagree with any of that. However the uncomfortable facts are that Leeds gave us a good run for our money in last years CC final, are in the CC final this year having knocked us out and are the current SL champions. If questions are to be asked, perhaps we should start down at the DW? This team has a bit to learn about pressure games. We don't seem to win very often at home with more than 18,000 fans in the ground. Bratfut being the latest example.

Watching Leeds this year reminds me of us under Noble and the way we played, although they seem capable of winning the big games rather than us at the time.

I work with a few Leeds fans and despite the success they have had most do not enjoy the performances for the most part of the season, and they find it immensely frustrating to say the least.

I watch rugby because I enjoy it and it is and trophies are the cherry on top and are great when they come our way but the main part of it for me is the week in week out performance on the field.

Teams can peak 3 maybe 4 times in a year and I would say that we should and will be aiming to peak physically at the start of the year, for the back end of the cup campaign and the play-offs.

The idea that we can only peak once is incorrect.

We lost the Leeds semi because they wanted it more and some of our players came up with plays that you would never see them make again, but credit to Leeds they took advantage and turned us over. I do not think if we had played like we had for 85% of the season Leeds would have turned us over, but they did and that is the excitement of the cup, anything can happen on the day.

I agree with Rogues in relation to their ability to challenge, I think they lack the quality and the coaching but they do have a nack of drawing teams in and if teams are stupid enough to get sucked in by them, they will cause them problems.

Wire are a team that do seem to get sucked in and intimidated and for that reason I would not be shocked though to see a Leeds win even if they are the underdogs.

Then you should be delighted with the way Wigan are playing this season.

I have to say I fundamentally disagree with you. Personally I believe that the whole point of entering a competition is to win it.

"They don't draw pictures on scorecards".

Agree, and I think mental fatigue is also an issue. It is very difficult to maintain top performances from the start right through to the end of the season. Even the great Wigan sides of the late 80s and early 90s bombed in games from time to time. It is a big ask psychologically to be excellent 100% of the time and if things start to go wrong in a game, then the team can suddenly feel under pressure and may not respond well to that pressure, as we saw in the Leeds game.