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| Quote: JCWWRL "Don't mind in the league but its a potential cup final vs Wire with Lockers or Mellor in halves that I'd be worried about. Couldn't stand losing to them and don't think Mellor is there mentally to play at the type of game and don't think Lockers is that good a 6 to be there in a final.'"
that may be so, but these are the cards we have been dealt - what other options do we have ?
if the game plan works well in the league games and we win the semi, then why should the same player crack in the final ?
i remember tommy getting mom in the GF after having his game consistently attacked on this board for the entire season. how badly did sam play in CC at wembley after such a superb season up until that point ?
finals are odd games. i saw an entire team collapse at wembley when we played sheffield !!!
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| At this stage I'd be inclined to play Mellor alongside finch for the Widnes Bradford and wakey games and see how he goes. Iv not seen much of him while hes been at Widnes but I thought he played pretty well when he was given half hour at Salford. Give him one last chance to show he can be a Wigan player. Then reassess the situation after those games and see which combination is going to be the best to take us in to the back end of the season
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| Quote: JCWWRL "I did actually put that as abit of a joke but the more I think about it the more it makes sense. He's not been retired a year he's been around the coaching and it's basically the same set of players he was with last season. No fee and not going to cost much on the cap I'd expect. 10 weeks out of retirement if thats the truth about Tommy and be a hero also would give a further option if Tommy does come back, because this injury for me has shown our lack of options in the halves.'"
It does make some sense doesn't it.
We've got three options as far as i can see;
1-Promote/shuffle from within. A number of options here with either bring Mellor back, move Sam to 6 and Finch to 7 or play Lockers at 6 with Finch at 7 again.
2-Pay a fee and get Smith in early or make a Dobson type signing from the NRL.
3-Get Deacon out of retirement
The first option is the one we will probably go down but it's very messy moving players around. Your moving two settled players from their normal positions and asking them to play 6 whilst moving Finch to 7. I know Sam and Lockers are good enough to do it but it's a lot of swapping and changing. Looking at players within the club Mellor doesn't look up to, Russell has question marks and Powell is injured isn't he?
The 2nd option defo viable and we've seen it work with Dobson in the past. If we get the right player in they will probably have some match fitness but will take a few weeks to get up to speed and also get to know the club
Deacon and the 3rd option is all based on his fitness. We can guarantee he knows the systems, players, coach and club so he will be up to speed in that regard. I'd say it's move convenient to bring Deac's fitness up to speed rather than trying to fit a new player into the system.
Very interesting to see what happens
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| Deacon? Are we being serious? It isn't like we've lost two or three of our pivots, we've lost 1. There's more than enough experience still there in Finch to enable Mellor or another young HB to take this opportunity.
It's unfortunate, yes. But it's not panic mode, we were planning to rotate over the next few weeks anyway, chance for someone to step up.
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| Quote: The_Enforcer "We could always sign Patrick Ah Van and play him at 7'"
He'd kick more than Charnley, the guy is a phenom
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| One point has been overlooked, Tommy's , DEFENCE, we are going to miss that no matter what.
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| Quote: inside_man "Deacon? Are we being serious? It isn't like we've lost two or three of our pivots, we've lost 1. There's more than enough experience still there in Finch to enable Mellor or another young HB to take this opportunity.
It's unfortunate, yes. But it's not panic mode, we were planning to rotate over the next few weeks anyway, chance for someone to step up.'"
If Mellor was seen as good enough he wouldn't have been sent to Widnes on a full season loan. He would have been given opportunities to impress for a new contract. If he was in our plans I'm sure we'd either have signed him up by now or give him more opps in the first team like we've seen with other youngsters like Logan, Crosby, Spencer etc. After that Powell is currently injured and not played 1st grade rugby.
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| I'd rather see Williams or Hampshire than Mellor don't thinks he's mentally a Wigan player from what I've seen of him. Throw a youngster in vs Widnes and Bradford while we look at options.
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| Have people forgotten deacon from last season? Poor in defence that was masked by an inexperienced joel charnley partnership and regularly making poor offensive decisions. Massive step back for me.
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| Quote: the wrestler "Have people forgotten deacon from last season? Poor in defence that was masked by an inexperienced joel charnley partnership and regularly making poor offensive decisions. Massive step back for me.'"
Every option from Chase, Smith, Mellor to Lockers is a step down from Tommy.
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "If Mellor was seen as good enough he wouldn't have been sent to Widnes on a full season loan. He would have been given opportunities to impress for a new contract. If he was in our plans I'm sure we'd either have signed him up by now or give him more opps in the first team like we've seen with other youngsters like Logan, Crosby, Spencer etc. After that Powell is currently injured and not played 1st grade rugby.'"
I don't think Mellor is likely to make it at Wigan but the reason he's out on loan at Widnes is not because he's not as good as the other young players at Wigan, it's because he needs first team rugby and is good enough to play in Super League regularly.
What would be the point in keeping him in the under 20's every week or sending him back to the Championship on dual registration? He's been there and done very well and was ready for the next step up.
The reason Logan Tomkins, Crosby and Spencer are still at the club is more likely to be because no team was interested in taking them out on loan.
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| If we went down a temporary Aussie option would you take Matt Orford on a short contract?? Not got a club ATM but he did only manage 6 games last year so wouldn't be too sure on his fitness
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| Quote: Cherry.Pie "I don't think Mellor is likely to make it at Wigan but the reason he's out on loan at Widnes is not because he's not as good as the other young players at Wigan, it's because he needs first team rugby and is good enough to play in Super League regularly.
What would be the point in keeping him in the under 20's every week or sending him back to the Championship on dual registration? He's been there and done very well and was ready for the next step up.
The reason Logan Tomkins, Crosby and Spencer are still at the club is more likely to be because no team was interested in taking them out on loan.'"
I think that if Mellor was considered good enough to be kept at Wigan past this season he'd have had more game time than he already has.
If he was in Wane's plans and good enough for the first team he'd have benched a lot more than he has. If we can afford Logan on the bench then we could have afforded Mellor on there a lot more as well.
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| Are these suggestions of signing out of contract Aussies or bringing back Paul Deacon some sort of in joke?
Is that how clubs are supposed to deal with injuries? Sign overseas players who haven't played in ages and weren't even good the last time they were in this country or bring back a player who was on his last legs before he even started his final season?
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "I think that if Mellor was considered good enough to be kept at Wigan past this season he'd have had more game time than he already has.
If he was in Wane's plans and good enough for the first team he'd have benched a lot more than he has. If we can afford Logan on the bench then we could have afforded Mellor on there a lot more as well.'"
Except he wouldn't be playing in the first team regularly if he was here would he? The reason Mellor wasn't an option on the bench is because Wane made it pretty clear right from the start that having four forwards on the bench was how he wanted to go.
The only reason Logan Tomkins has made the bench is because of injuries. He's not getting regular first team rugby whereas that was something that Mellor really needed.
The idea of sending Mellor out on loan is to allow him time to prove that he's good enough to play regularly in Super League because he was never going to oust Leuluai or Finch and was only ever going to get a few starts off the bench had he stayed at Wigan.
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