Putting the ball down a few times and tearing teams apart are slightly different things ......................

good point......putting the ball down scores points.

Depends where you put the ball down though

Best player in Super league though!

So people keep telling me.

Even the goons at HQ saw fit to get Tomkins extra work.......he can't be that bad a player

Intelligent people !

Tony Smith always gives bad interviews, he never makes eye contact with any one or anything .

The same intelligent people who told me Ryan Hall is the World's best winger.

I admire your tenacity for sticking with it, mate, but honestly - tonight, he looked very ordinary. Though not as ordinary as the man who 'should have automtically been selected for England' - Ryan Atkins. Good grief.

The main thing to remember is that tonight it was the best two teams in Super League, according to Sky.

I don't think he is the best winger in the world, neither do I believe Tomkins is the best player to have ever played for Wigan.

It's all hype.....and verbal nonsence that come from the Sky team.

I just ed very hard at that....

2011 Rugby League World Magazine World XIII - International Team of the Year

1) Billy Slater (Storm)
2) Akuila Uate (Knights)
3) Greg Inglis (Rabbitohs)
4) Jamie Lyon (Sea Eagles)
5) Ryan Hall (Leeds)
6) Darren Lockyer (Broncos)
7) Johnathan Thurston (Cowboys)
James Graham (St Helens)
9) Cameron Smith (Storm)
10) Paul Gallen (Sharks)
11) Sam Thaiday (Broncos)
12) Gareth Ellis (Tigers)
13) Anthony Watmough (Sea Eagles)

That seems to suggest he's at least the joint best winger in the world...

No disrespect to Charnley, but three years ago Hall was doing everything Charnley does now - whether Charnley turns out to be as good as Hall, or even better than him, will be determined by how he progresses from here. As things stand he's a quality winger (Charnley) but plenty have turned it on for a season or two before being found out.

Ryan Hall is top class and certainly amoungst the best wingers in the world. If we compare him like for like with Charnley at the moment it's just really exciting from a Wigan and England point of view that Charnley can claim to be outplaying him currently and he has the potential to be anything he wants to be.

I think a debate i'd like to see take place more then a Hall vs Charnley one would be a Charnley vs Briscoe one! I like Briscoe but I always wonder if he's been a bit over hyped a bit too soon and the lad hasn't quite developed as I thought he may. He physically seems to get dominated against the Aussies and Kiwi's and that just doesn't happen with Hall and I doubt it would with Charnley.