I don't see how you can say that, he hasn't performed yet and whether he plays well or not will make very little difference. His influence from out on the wing will be minimal, Wigan by at least 40 for me.

I think the OP was being sarcastic.

AH VAN!!!!! I'm more frit of our Valerie......

Matty I hope he does well as will mean Widnes competitve.I am really disappointed with my team and wish we could nick some of the best from the top teams.

I hope Betts gets the team to come good a week from now, he was a good coach for us, a little inexperienced, and we really didn't bring someone in who would help him along in that department (Millward).

Widnes should have more faith, Betts is not the one falling off tackles, giving soft penalties, the players are professional and are paid to do a job, which they are not doing, but they are a new team and time will only improve them.

i think personally we have to be very wary about playin widnes, i know they've not done so well so far but they have quite a few ex wigan players playin for them, cross, davies, briscoe, clarke, allen, plus marsh (dont know if he's eligible or nor not). that always contributes to a good game cos players will always give an extra 10% against their home town team or ex team. e.g huddersfield with the likes of brown, robinson, wild. always played well against us.

No I'm right with you. I hope Betts succeeds for many reasons, but mostly because... he's BETTS... but also, well, it could get pretty embarrassing for SL if they start letting 70+ past them, which I could see happening with your Wigans, Wires and Saints.

It's a test of our professionalism and that's it really. Turn up like we would any other game (and did at Cas in what would have been a tough environment) and we'll win. Go into it cocky and we may get shown up, but it would take a real big effort from Widnes as well.

I was thinking about this yesterday - with Wane saying on his appointment that he'll be blooding the youngsters, and with Hughes and Spencer playing due to others injuries, is this not the perfect game for someone like Russell/Powell/Tomkins to get the place on the bench and come on for the last 20 minutes?

Look people, you need to get real. You're coming to Widnes to get a real pasting. If you're lucky we'll let you get away with a 40 point chasing.

I really feel for you but you'll have to take the rough with the smooth at this level

Doh! Too late!

Erm: Crusaders 22 Warriors 16 (June '09)
Or has everyone wiped that from their RAM?

I've no doubt Vikings will come good, but only if they have the same professionalism as the French & not (as was suspected from the start) the Welsh (and not for a while yet, please )

No I wouldn't.
My point is that we went to Newport half-cocked & underestimated them badly. That's the sort of result that does happen every now & again when a squad is complacent. For all the guts Cats showed at the Stainers a couple of weeks ago it was the latter who turned off in the last 20 minutes thinking "job done".