I know one of the people involved in this and without going into any detail the entire thing is a mess and it is no surprise that a good few people have left the club since the takeover. Shockingly poor.

Please don't speculate on any of the details please. I've just had to delete a potentially libellous post and some that quoted it.

It says in the article that the hull fitness conditioner gave him weight loss drugs. That was hulls fitness conditioner and they then tried to cover it up thats why i said shame on hull.

Whatever the inns and outs of it and whatever has been going on
its very sad and not the type of good news story we want to hear within
Rugby League.

sad situation for a fine player over the years - maybe this guy needs help ?

we need to avoid another Terry Newton situation...

There are no innocent parties in this. Rule & Cooper lied to the anti doping agency when Gleeson was originally tested positive (www.ukad.org.uk/news/article/thr ... violations). They should have no part in our sport for ever, not just a couple of years. Gleeson's obviously been poorly advised, but I hope he doesn't shut himself away & the RFL (along with the RLPA) are active with rehabilitation - they must have learned something from the Newton debacle.

There are no innocent parties in this. Rule & Cooper lied to the anti doping agency when Gleeson was originally tested positive (www.ukad.org.uk/news/article/thr ... violations). They should have no part in our sport for ever, not just a couple of years. Gleeson's obviously been poorly advised, but I hope he doesn't shut himself away & the RFL (along with the RLPA) are active with rehabilitation - they must have learned something from the Newton debacle.

Yet again another Wigan born player brings the game into disrepute having failed a drugs test. This is a worrying trend and hopefully it's the last.

At the same time, hope the guy is given / has been given assistance from the RFL to try and overcome his problems and to adjust to life away from the game.

Martin Gleeson ( Three-year ban reduced to 18 months ) Ben Cooper ( Two-year ban reduced to 12 months ) James Rule ( Gets 2 year ban ) www.ukad.org.uk/news/article/thr ... iolations/

Martin Gleeson ( Three-year ban reduced to 18 months ) Ben Cooper ( Two-year ban reduced to 12 months ) James Rule ( Gets 2 year ban ) www.ukad.org.uk/news/article/thr ... iolations/

www.code13rugbyleague.com/2011/1 ... iolations/

www.code13rugbyleague.com/2011/1 ... iolations/

The inconsistency of the RFL is astounding at times !

What inconsistency?

Reading the report on Hull FC Conditioner Ben Cooper gives more insight into the goings on. (I also have a degree of sympathy for Gleeson and Long here), although Long hasn't been charged with anything.

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To summarise:

*3rd June - UKDA charge Gleeson.
*4th June - Cooper signs statement that he supplied Gleeson with OxyElite Pro in error.
*9th June - Cooper hands in signs 2nd testament to show he was solely to blame for the positive test.
*9th June - Cooper confirms when interviewed the above testimony, where Gleeson handed him a sealed packet of OxyElite Pro and asked him to check if okay to use (to combat fatigue). The reason for this was the usual supplements (provided by Hull's Official Supplement Supplier) was out of stock and the club didn't have a similar product at that time.

*When questioned further, Cooper confirms the statements above as false and that it was not Gleeson who came to him, but another Hull FC team mate (named as Sean Long in Gleeson's Report)
*Cooper admitted he checked the ingredients for Long on the WADA website but failed to check on the Global DRO database when previously he claimed he did.

The only thing Gleeson could really be found guilty of is the 'white lie' in an attempt to protect his mate.

All this begs the question, if a player has the 'sniffles' / needs legal supplements and buys a product off the shelf, should he trust his club staff before use? Or should he double check the ingredients himself on the numerous websites to cover his ass?

Here we are 8-9 years after the 'Cunningham Saga' and we still have club conditioners making errors.

It's nothing to do with the RFL, the Drugs Agency set the bans. If you are referring to K. Cunningham, that was eight years ago and the drug concerned was only banned in 2010.