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| Quote: wire quin "its just Wigan that matters
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| Quote: wire quin "Have you ever thought that maybe the lead up games to the play off generate interest for the clubs pushing for a place and possibly bigger crowds or is it just Wigan that matters
Silly old RL the only sport that has a play off system at the end of the season.'"
Have you ever thought the reason our sport isnt really growing is because we bother too much about the crap that just make up the numbers? We need to concentrate on having more quality games more often if we want people to get into our sport. Not a crappy 6v7 playoff eliminators etc with the winner getting destroyed when they play a decent team.
Why dont we just have a full league playoff system so everybody is involved? 
A playoff spot should be something elite, not something that most of the league are involved in. |
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| Quote: Wandering Warrior "Have you ever thought the reason our sport isnt really growing is because we bother too much about the crap that just make up the numbers? We need to concentrate on having more quality games more often if we want people to get into our sport. Not a crappy 6v7 playoff eliminators etc with the winner getting destroyed when they play a decent team.
Why dont we just have a full league playoff system so everybody is involved? ![]()
AT LAST!!!!! Somebody talking sense!!!!!!
Bring back the top 5 or have a top 4 system.
In a 10 team league.
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| Quote: Bigredwarrior "The clubs have voted to retain an 8 team play off format and kept club call. Saints voted against it band wire abstained.
I'd like to see which clubs wanted to keep the 8 team play off format? I'll bey it's the middle order clubs rather than the top few!'"
I can't help feeling that the answer to your second paragraph lies in your first...  |
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The Communist Cap - dragging down success and aspiration to the levels of those who cba.: |
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| Quote: Dougy "My dad has not renewed his ST for next season which I'm gutted about. But he's said he wont pay £200 for a ST when it doesn't matter if you lose 0 or 10 games and you'll still have same chance of being champions come the 2nd week of September.'"
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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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I would have a 10-12 team league (and thats pushing it).
1st goes straight to the GF. 2nd v 3rd midweek to decide who plays them in the final.
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| Quote: 21-12 "Should be a 10 team league.
Play offs
1st v 4th
2nd v 3rd
Winners play at Old Trafford. Simples.
Oh and bring back the Old championship trophy for the team that finishes Top.'"
18 game season or 27 ?
Viewing public get ed off watching the same teams play each other all the time. Following your logic Why not make it simpler have a 4 team league Wigan Saints Leeds and Bradford. Warrington and Hudds as first reserves . Wigan play Sts 24 times a season Leeds play Bradford 24 times.
Play off Wigan v Saints and Leeds v Bradford .
Winners play at OT.
4 northern Towns swamped with Sky dishes and the rest of the country is left wondering what happened to RL.
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| Quote: The Vicar of Widnes "18 game season or 27 ?
Viewing public get vexed off watching the same teams play each other all the time. Following your logic Why not make it simpler have a 4 team league Wigan Saints Leeds and Bradford. Warrington and Hudds as first reserves . Wigan play Sts 24 times a season Leeds play Bradford 24 times.
Play off Wigan v Saints and Leeds v Bradford .
Winners play at OT.
4 northern Towns swamped with Sky dishes and the rest of the country is left wondering what happened to RL.
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The viewing public equally get vexed off seeing pap teams getting walloped. Quality needs to improve, if that means quanitity gets reduced then so be it. |
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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: The Vicar of Widnes "18 game season or 27 ?
Viewing public get vexed off watching the same teams play each other all the time. Following your logic Why not make it simpler have a 4 team league Wigan Saints Leeds and Bradford. Warrington and Hudds as first reserves . Wigan play Sts 24 times a season Leeds play Bradford 24 times.
Play off Wigan v Saints and Leeds v Bradford .
Winners play at OT.
4 northern Towns swamped with Sky dishes and the rest of the country is left wondering what happened to RL.
The Vicar'"
So you think Wakey, Cas, Crusaders and Salford were good enough for super league this season? |
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| Quote: The Vicar of Widnes "18 game season or 27 ?
Viewing public get vexed off watching the same teams play each other all the time. Following your logic Why not make it simpler have a 4 team league Wigan Saints Leeds and Bradford. Warrington and Hudds as first reserves . Wigan play Sts 24 times a season Leeds play Bradford 24 times.
Play off Wigan v Saints and Leeds v Bradford .
Winners play at OT.
4 northern Towns swamped with Sky dishes and the rest of the country is left wondering what happened to RL.
The Vicar'"
Not at all.
Wigan
Warrington
Saints
Leeds
Hull
Hull KR
Bradford
Catalans
Huddersfield
London/Salford/Widnes/Castleford - All up for debate really
Quality MUST improve, if that means having less games then so be it. The fact that Wakefield are in Super League is nothing short of embarrasing. |
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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: 21-12 "Not at all.
Wigan
Warrington
Saints
Leeds
Hull
Hull KR
Bradford
Catalans
Huddersfield
London/Salford/Widnes/Castleford - All up for debate really
Quality MUST improve, if that means having less games then so be it. The fact that Wakefield are in Super League is nothing short of embarrasing.'"
To be honest I would just have 12 team league and drop Wakey and Cas. Widnes will do well as a club IMO, they are already more qualified for super league than a few teams already. The London club is also vital for a big sky deal so they should stay. Cas and Wakey have not given us what they promised, so they can go.
Not only does that make the top league stronger it makes the second tier stronger as well.
Castleford
Wakefield
Halifax
Leigh
Featherstone
Sheffield
Good standard of clubs for the SECOND TIER. |
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| Quote: Odem "To be honest I would just have 12 team league and drop Wakey and Cas. Widnes will do well as a club IMO, they are already more qualified for super league than a few teams already. The London club is also vital for a big sky deal so they should stay. Cas and Wakey have not given us what they promised, so they can go.
Not only does that make the top league stronger it makes the second tier stronger as well.
Castleford
Wakefield
Halifax
Leigh
Featherstone
Sheffield
Good standard of clubs for the SECOND TIER.'"
Correct. The second tier is very weak at the moment. Cant really argue with your post. Will never happen though, not with people like Nigel Woods at the healm. Idiot. |
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The more I think about it, the more my interest in Super League drains. I still have a high interest in the sport and in the Wigan club. But how can you get excited about this competition with this format?
As long as you finish in the top 8 which Wigan are guaranteed to do, it doesn't matter where we are at the end of the 27 rounds. You get a slight advantage for finishing in the top 4 but thats it.
I'm shocked to be honest at the extent to which the format has taken away my enthusiasm for the domestic year. I don't want to follow a competition that rewards mediocrity.
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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: MadDogg "The more I think about it, the more my interest in Super League drains. I still have a high interest in the sport and in the Wigan club. But how can you get excited about this competition with this format?
As long as you finish in the top 8 which Wigan are guaranteed to do, it doesn't matter where we are at the end of the 27 rounds. You get a slight advantage for finishing in the top 4 but thats it.
I'm shocked to be honest at the extent to which the format has taken away my enthusiasm for the domestic year. I don't want to follow a competition that rewards mediocrity.'"
I am not sure you do.
We had to play...
Saints (H)
Catalans (H)
Saints (A)
Leeds had to play...
Hull (H)
Hudds (A)
Wire (A)
I don't think Leeds had a more difficult task than we did despite finishing 2nd and them finishing 5th. I know you get a second chance finishing in the top 4 but it doesn't make much difference as there is a likely chance you will need it. I doubt we would have needed a second chance playing Hull at home.
Under the old top 6 system (which didn't need changing) Leeds would need to beat... Hudds (A), Saints (A), Wigan (A) and then beat Warrington in the GF. A much more fair task for a team finishing 5th.
Instead they played the team in 8th, the team 1 place above them who they had beaten during the regular season and then lifted their performance hugely for one game and got to the final. Now this is not a dig at Leeds, they were superb and deserved to win those games, this is a dig at the system which helped them do so.
Personally I would have loved for Wigan to finish 5th this year. Play Hull KR at home and then go away to Hudds. |
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| Quote: Odem "I am not sure you do.
We had to play...
Saints (H)
Catalans (H)
Saints (A)
Leeds had to play...
Hull (H)
Hudds (A)
Wire (A)
I don't think Leeds had a more difficult task than we did despite finishing 2nd and them finishing 5th. I know you get a second chance finishing in the top 4 but it doesn't make much difference as there is a likely chance you will need it. I doubt we would have needed a second chance playing Hull at home.
Under the old top 6 system (which didn't need changing) Leeds would need to beat... Hudds (A), Saints (A), Wigan (A) and then beat Warrington in the GF. A much more fair task for a team finishing 5th.
Instead they played the team in 8th, the team 1 place above them who they had beaten during the regular season and then lifted their performance hugely for one game and got to the final. Now this is not a dig at Leeds, they were superb and deserved to win those games, this is a dig at the system which helped them do so.
Personally I would have loved for Wigan to finish 5th this year. Play Hull KR at home and then go away to Hudds.'"
Wouldn't have made much difference would it? A farce. |
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