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Quote: XBrettKennyX "Not being mystic meg I am asking the question as we stand now.

Do YOU think we are stronger?

Do YOU think we have replaced adequately?'"

Will make a call when the squad is finalised.

1 thing is for sure very few of our real rivals will improve in terms of recruits due to the market.

As it stands all the top clubs are weaker on paper than last year......as it stands.

No point in attempting to form an opinion until the facts are in though is there?

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Quote: XBrettKennyX "
Zzzzz is a pathetic response to a thread, and not worthy of a reply.'"


But you decided to reply anyway?

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Quote: Conroy "But you decided to reply anyway?'"


It certainly is the silly season.

Even though it's more or less common knowledge that the club is currently fighting to hang onto its prize assets (and the 'increment' factor has given them a bit of power in their corner), there are still some terrace mules who are going ballistic because we haven't unveiled Billly Slater and Cameron Smith as our next recruits.

When it's finally announced that Joel has gone, I confidently expect the retrun of 'Red Hot Jalapeno' with a cry of: "See - you blind fools - I told you all along that IL was crap! The Grand Final, the Challenge Cup, the bank balance, the junior all-stars - pure fluke!"

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Quote: Cruncher "It certainly is the silly season.

Even though it's more or less common knowledge that the club is currently fighting to hang onto its prize assets (and the 'increment' factor has given them a bit of power in their corner), there are still some terrace mules who are going ballistic because we haven't unveiled Billly Slater and Cameron Smith as our next recruits.

When it's finally announced that Joel has gone, I confidently expect the retrun of 'Red Hot Jalapeno' with a cry of

Ha ha..doubt RHJ will have the b0llocks to show up here again under that name.. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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I appreciate your point, but bearing the salary cap in mind id like to know you would like these "replacements" to be?

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Quote: XBrettKennyX "It wasn't a request for information, more a general observation on the seemingly inept procurement of playing staff. But the question remains.

I can't remember the last time I was filled with such a lethargic state of expectation pre season.'"


Is it inept because you haven't been given said information? The signings have been completed. They will be announced in due course. Now once again, relax sunshine.

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I'm sure IL and SW have spotted we need to strengthen, and we really need to sign a centre in particular, but we are a way off the start of the 2012 season.

The criticism looks a little premature to me.

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Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "Is it inept because you haven't been given said information? The signings have been completed. They will be announced in due course. Now once again, relax sunshine.'"


I am relaxed petal.

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Who are these replacements then? Id like someone to throw some names about that are out of contract, cheap and available, oh and can fit under the cap.

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Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, not gonna trawl through a lot of the drivel discussed, but what really nags me about the 'we should have room under the salary cap, where are our world class players' bridgade is the following.

Surely the likes of Josh Charnley, Liam Farrell et al will have contract upgrades this season as they are now regular first graders and who are expected in due course to step up to the likes of Hoffman, Joel?

Surely its a good thing? It is blindingly obvious the hypocrisy of some on here who on the one hand complain about the quality of recruitment for next season from Lenaghan, meaning more kids wll get a run out next year and on the other complaining about us not offering more money to the kids to keep them in RL. Maybe Sam has had a contract upgrade to keep him here, who knows? And this is what some of the people calling for high profile signings will complain about if Sam does go!

IN lLenaghan and Wane we trust

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Quote: Das Tard "Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, not gonna trawl through a lot of the drivel discussed, but what really nags me about the 'we should have room under the salary cap, where are our world class players' bridgade is the following.

Surely the likes of Josh Charnley, Liam Farrell et al will have contract upgrades this season as they are now regular first graders and who are expected in due course to step up to the likes of Hoffman, Joel?

Surely its a good thing? It is blindingly obvious the hypocrisy of some on here who on the one hand complain about the quality of recruitment for next season from Lenaghan, meaning more kids wll get a run out next year and on the other complaining about us not offering more money to the kids to keep them in RL. Maybe Sam has had a contract upgrade to keep him here, who knows? And this is what some of the people calling for high profile signings will complain about if Sam does go!

IN lLenaghan and Wane we trust'"


Spot on.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Hoffman- Hock
Coley- Fielden
O'Carroll- Dudson
Davies- Flower
Gleeson- Joel Tomkins
Deacon- Mellor/Powell/L Tomkins

Thats how it looked but now Joel looks likely to leave so he may be replaced by Goulding or Roberts or according to the League Weekly a new centre from the NRL with any luck.

Overall we're no weaker imo and if guys like Mellor show what they can do we'll be stronger.

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I completely disagree with that last sentence.

Although Hock can be great on the day I doubt he will ever show the consistency that Hoffman had and I doubt he will be able to work with Finch as well. He just isn't as smart a player. If Joel were staying and was moving back to the pack then I'd be less concerned because I think people have forgotten how good a back row forward he is. He was outstanding in 2010.

Fielden. He's been out a year and if he can match Coley's work rate and get back up to speed OK but there must be doubts about that.

Dudson - O'Carroll. Well I think everyine says Dudson has potential but needs work and I think O'Carroll was well underrated here. So in the short term I don't think Dudson matches up but he could be there pretty quick.

Flower just look poor.

Gleeson - Tomkins. Even if Joel stays playing at centre again will be the compromise it was last season. He needs to go back to the pack if he stays to make up for Hoffman going. So at centre we are not goods enough either way.

Deacon- Mellor/Powell/L Tomkins. Definitely not on a par at all. Even if it were a good ides to go from zero SL experience to holding down a half back slot full time which it isn't they just have not got the experience of a player like Deacon.

It is simply not credible to lose players of the calibre of Hoffman, Deacon, Joel and Coley form a squad, replace them with Lauaki and the two Crusaders players and say we are no weaker.

You are also making a rod for Wane's back because to say he has a squad no weaker puts the expectation as high as last season. It is not fair to expect Wane to do as well with this squad.

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Quote: Das Tard "

Surely the likes of Josh Charnley, Liam Farrell et al will have contract upgrades this season as they are now regular first graders and who are expected in due course to step up to the likes of Hoffman, Joel? '"


Upgraded contracts are probably a big reason why there is not major recruit. It doesn't mean the squad isn't weaker though does it?

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