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| Quote: Odem "Too true. I think we need to expand into areas of the North before we start trying to go into areas which don't care about RL.'"
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| Quote: Rhinoshaund III "But its also got worse since the end of GB.
Wales dont have any fans, Ireland dont, Scotland certainly dont (Ofcourse im exagerating) but they just dont have the fanbase.
The RFL shouldve promoted GB rather than disbanded it. Reverting back to GB needs to be a start.
I remember at the end of every season nipping into JJB sports to get the new GB shirt and looking forward to the upcoming tests. Im English with Irish family so for me GB was an extension of my support for the Rhinos.
Since GB disbanded I can honestly say International RL has lost its appeal massively! ![]()
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Why dont they have a competition every year between the home 4 nations and France. As well as the tri nations with GB, NZ and OZ. Have games played as a double header in a decent stadium. The new Saints, HJ or Salford's new ground. Then have the top 2 face off and have it as a curtain raiser for the final of the tri nations.
Putting Wales in against the 3 top RL international sides is a recipe for disaster and will only lead to severe hammering for us. If the time comes (do not think i will ever though) that Wales or any of the other sides can give the top 3 sides a decent game then have them in the bigger comp. For some reason the RFL is adamant on seperating GB an Ireland sides. RFL is killing Internationl rugby and its not bothered about it i feel.
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It's not just the demise of GB - which I would also bring back - but the nature of the competitions played.
There used to be a rhythm to International RL with tours, Ashes series etc, all happening to a regular timeframe. This has been replaced by a 4 nations which always includes at least 1 ludicrously uncompetitive team, and a World Cup which seems to happen when the authorities feel like it, rather than to a schedule.
At the same time, we've gone from big crowds at Wembley/major football stadiums, to using medium sized grounds (DW/KC etc) to now Leigh Sports Village.
While the alignment of the seasons in GB & Aus means tours are now impractical, bringing back the Ashes would be a step forward, as it actually means something.
It's a crying shame - International RL used to be good in the late 80's/90's.
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"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire"
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| Quote: Wandering Warrior "Its not always been like that though has it? They as a sport have been and are moving forward quickly. Meanwhile over at the RFL we are still stuck in the dark ages and are going in the opposite direction even quicker.'" You're right there. Union has come on leaps and bounds. Most of what they are implimenting is copied from RL, which is possibly at the the of it's evolutionary branch. RU is still evolving and we could at some point in the future see an amalgamation, with profesionals playing RL but calling it RU.
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If Union and League did join up they'd call it "Rugby"
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| Quote: Rhinoshaund III "But its also got worse since the end of GB.
Wales dont have any fans, Ireland dont, Scotland certainly dont (Ofcourse im exagerating) but they just dont have the fanbase.
The RFL shouldve promoted GB rather than disbanded it. Reverting back to GB needs to be a start.
I remember at the end of every season nipping into JJB sports to get the new GB shirt and looking forward to the upcoming tests. Im English with Irish family so for me GB was an extension of my support for the Rhinos.
Since GB disbanded I can honestly say International RL has lost its appeal massively! ![]()
I don't really understand the relevance GB is supposed to have? No Welsh, Irish or Scottish fans had any interest in GB and pretty much every game was played in England. Basically every player in the team was English! It was an England squad not a GB squad so I'm not surprised they switched to just plain old England.
At least with the individual nations competing there's a chance that some Welsh, Irish or Scottish fans would turn up to watch their team. Even if it's just in tiny numbers it's people who are interested in watching the game.
I really don't see how going back to GB would make any difference at all.
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| Quote: Rhinoshaund III "It cant, and it never will.'"
Nope.
It has in the past (look at attendances in the early 20th Century) and it almost did in the 80's.
The reality is that the opportunity has passed due to the Communists that are incumbent in the appropriately named "Red Hall".
The greatest game in the world on the pitch, ruined by socialists off it. |
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| Quote: Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy "Put the cap back on the gin bottle and slowly back away from the drinks cabinet.'"
I'm sorry old bean, what are you insinuating? |
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| Quote: Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy " '"
Hmm that's odd. I had always imagined you older............. |
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "Hmm that's odd. I had always imagined you older.............'"
I am, that's you at 20 isn't it? |
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[b:hckzm0kh]Never Underestimate A Rhino[/b:hckzm0kh]
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| Quote: Cherry.Pie "I don't really understand the relevance GB is supposed to have? No Welsh, Irish or Scottish fans had any interest in GB and pretty much every game was played in England. Basically every player in the team was English! It was an England squad not a GB squad so I'm not surprised they switched to just plain old England.
At least with the individual nations competing there's a chance that some Welsh, Irish or Scottish fans would turn up to watch their team. Even if it's just in tiny numbers it's people who are interested in watching the game.
I really don't see how going back to GB would make any difference at all.'"
Irish internationals include:
Brian Carney
Ben Harrison
Chris Bridge
Barrie Mcdermott
Terry O'Connor
Gary Connolly
Francis Cummins
Sean Edwards
Bernard Dwyer
Wales internationals include:
Keiron cunningham
Lee Briers
Anthony Sullivan
Iestyn Harris
Billy Boston
Jonathan Davies
Lewis Jones
Scottish Internationals include:
Danny Brough
Marc Calderwood
Majority of which have played for GB, some for England which is just my point. If theyre so quick to switch countries then we might aswell just go back to GB have done with it!
Keiron Cunningham and Lee Briers have never played for "plain old England" |
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| Quote: Rhinoshaund III "Irish internationals include
But what would happen at the world cup? Would it just be a Great Britain team? It would be daft to split the nations up again just for that one tournament but without the other nations the world cup is a bit pointless.
I think it's a bit pointless anyway but it has to happen if the sport is to be taken seriously at international level.
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| Quote: Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy "I am, that's you at 20 isn't it?'"
ME? The 13th Duke of Wyborne?  |
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