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Quote: FearTheVee "Of course it is, if we deserve to win the game, we will. If we don't, we won't.

But I don't find reaching grand finals embarrassing. If we get there and are outplayed in the final, that will be disappointing and upsetting, but certainly not embarrassing.'"


But surely you must find losing four on the trot embarrassing. I know I would, and I also know that you'd be the first to never shut up about it if it was Wigan who had FAILED to win four on the bounce.

If I were you, I'd be praying we beat you on Saturday to save you further embarrassment.

I also find it hard to believe that someone who calls themselves a real fan, as I presume you do, would accept four, potentially five successive high profile failures. Show me a Saints fan who would, and I, my friend, will show you a dirtygreatbigfeckoff liar.

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Quote: FearTheVee "Of course it is, if we deserve to win the game, we will. If we don't, we won't.

But I don't find reaching grand finals embarrassing. If we get there and are outplayed in the final, that will be disappointing and upsetting, but certainly not embarrassing.'"


Surely being the 'Jimmy White' of Rugby League, must bother you a little bit?

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Quote: ROBINSON "As I pointed out when I completely destroyed you on that other thread, close enough is NOT good enough. The aim is to WIN, not 'almost' win.

Four grand final chokes on the trot is, frankly, an embarrassing record.'"


It's a bad record, but not embarrassing.

Look at 2007 - 2009, would you rather bow out where we did, 1 game short every year or get to the Final?

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Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "Surely being the 'Jimmy White' of Rugby League, must bother you a little bit?'"


We've won the Super League more often than anyone else, and reached more Grand Finals than anyone else.

I'm so embarrassed icon_surprised.gifops:

Anyone who would rather not reach a final to avoid risking losing a final is a coward. How can reaching a final be more embarrassing than not reaching a final?

All very small time.

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Quote: FearTheVee "We've won the Super League more often than anyone else, and reached more Grand Finals than anyone else.

I'm so embarrassed
All in the past bla bla bla, you need to shift the monkey off your back sooner rather than later, your squad is old, your best prop forward is leaving the club, your stand off has turned french. Great signing in the kiwi bloke but a team that has aleady made PW captain for next season will slowly fade.

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Quote: {Hogan} "All in the past bla bla bla, you need to shift the monkey off your back sooner rather than later, your squad is old, your best prop forward is leaving the club, your stand off has turned french. Great signing in the kiwi bloke but a team that has aleady made PW captain for next season will slowly fade.'"


All of which has nothing to do with embarrassment at reaching GFs icon_biggrin.gif

As for our squad being old, what an odd statement.

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Quote: FearTheVee "All of which has nothing to do with embarrassment at reaching GFs
You should discuss the embarrassment with the OP, i am mearly discussing that you need to shift the monkey from your back, it MUST have an effect on the players who take the field. It basically finished KC career on a low, which was a real shame.

Paul Wellens 31
Josh Perry 30
Ade Gardner 29
Tony Puletua 32
Chris Flannery 31
Francis Meli 32

Kyle Eastmond - GONE
Leon Pryce - GONE
James Graham - GONE

All players who would be in starting line up right?

Without doubt you have brought some excellent young players thourgh, none more so than Lomax this season.

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Why are wigan fans so obsessed with saints???? you're beginning to sound like a Liverpool fan talking about United.

If we get to another Gf and lose, so what, Warrington have been the best side all season, and probably deserve to call themselves champs anyway, all we can say is that we've been beaten by a better team on the day, but we would also have the satisfaction of ending your season!!!

Plus anybody who thinks that saints have an ageing side, obviously hasn't been watching the game for the past 2 years, season after season people have gone on about is this the season when we see the fall of the mighty St Helens, and each year we answer that question with a big fat NO.

Year after year we are never too far away, and now we have got the move out of the way, we will only get better.

Have we ever been close to relegation? Relegated for that fact? missed out onthe play offs? NO

Robo, you look like a sad little boy son.

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Quote: saintswift "Why are wigan fans so obsessed with saints???? you're beginning to sound like a Liverpool fan talking about United.
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Yeah lets stop the rivalry, its not good ahead of a derby game.... eusa_snooty.gif

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Quote: saintswift "Why are wigan fans so obsessed with saints???? you're beginning to sound like a Liverpool fan talking about United.

If we get to another Gf and lose, so what, Warrington have been the best side all season, and probably deserve to call themselves champs anyway, all we can say is that we've been beaten by a better team on the day, but we would also have the satisfaction of ending your season!!!

Plus anybody who thinks that saints have an ageing side, obviously hasn't been watching the game for the past 2 years, season after season people have gone on about is this the season when we see the fall of the mighty St Helens, and each year we answer that question with a big fat NO.

Year after year we are never too far away, and now we have got the move out of the way, we will only get better.

Have we ever been close to relegation? Relegated for that fact? missed out onthe play offs? NO

Robo, you look like a sad little boy son.'"

Yet still you bite.....
The original post was not worthy of a response IMO. Pure wind up.

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Grand Final is Wigan-Leeds. Certain.

I was nearly laughed off the board when I said 30+ against Catalans, so think before you bookmark this time icon_smile.gif

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Quote: saintswift "Why are wigan fans so obsessed with saints???? '"


This did make me chuckle when you consider this fact from your posting information:

Most active forum: Wigan Warriors - cherryandwhite.co.uk

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Quote: Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy "This did make me chuckle when you consider this fact from your posting information

Seconded. Calling us obssesed with them yet he is here icon_lol.gif

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Quote: {Hogan} "You should discuss the embarrassment with the OP, i am mearly discussing that you need to shift the monkey from your back, it MUST have an effect on the players who take the field. It basically finished KC career on a low, which was a real shame.

Paul Wellens 31
Josh Perry 30
Ade Gardner 29
Tony Puletua 32
Chris Flannery 31
Francis Meli 32

Kyle Eastmond - GONE
Leon Pryce - GONE
James Graham - GONE

All players who would be in starting line up right?

Without doubt you have brought some excellent young players thourgh, none more so than Lomax this season.'"


Tell me how old are Deacon, Finch, Richards, Carmont, Fielden, Coley, Roberts, Lima & O'Loughlin is 30 next year, plus you are losing your most successful coach in the SL era, Hoffman, Carroll and probably Deacon are leaving, so tell me what does the future hold for this againg wigan team?

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Quote: {Hogan} "
Paul Wellens 31
Josh Perry 30
Ade Gardner 29
Tony Puletua 32
Chris Flannery 31
Francis Meli 32

Kyle Eastmond - GONE
Leon Pryce - GONE
James Graham - GONE

All players who would be in starting line up right?

Without doubt you have brought some excellent young players thourgh, none more so than Lomax this season.'"


Meli - Wigan fans had a petition to re-sign an older centre.
Puletua/Perry - Props, no issues with early 30s props, especially when TP is still so good (Fielden? Coley?)
Gardner and Flannery would struggle to make the 17 next year, but Gardner is younger than Pat Richards anyway.
Wellens - Captain, but will be phased out over next season. Did OK at the DW recently.

Eastmond/Pryce/Graham - GONE. Deacon/Coley/Hoffman/Maguire - GONE

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