i agree.....when did you last see a ref march a side 10 metres further back?
seems to be a forgotten rule

Sam is nowhere near the same level of a moaner I've never seen Sam point and shout at a ref. Also Sam isn't a club captain or been captain of his country.

Graham was spitting all over the walls coming out of the changing rooms on his way to the pitch.

To be fair I think he's just fed up of losing, he's been at Saints a while now and not much has gone their way... there was the grand final for one and then this year at the DW in the final minutes of the game

Whilst not going so far as to say he is past it I think Graham's best days are behind him.

Have you ever seen Sam having a go at the ref or question a decision so vigorously? He isn't perfect and does wind players and fans up and yes it is part of his game. But he comes no where near James and his spats to the ref! As good a prop he is, he needs to cut this from his game. Would his game suffer if he did? I dont think it would. I would bet on it being taken away from his game in Aus next year by a good coach.

It'll be taken away from his game or he'll be in the bin more than he's on the pitch

Hang on just a min... When can you remember Sam having a go at the ref (not pointing out a knock on) or acting in a "petulant" way?

In the game, I remember Lockers having to work at pulling his arm out when trapped, when was the last time Sam trapped and arm?

He was moaning at the ref from the first tackle. Just watched match back on BBC and seen after game interview with Simmons. He's going on about Finch and others getting to the ref and harping on about how they couldn't train for a few days and they had injuries - but he doesn't want to make excuses!

No wonder Ginge moans so much when that's how graceful his coach is in defeat.

Nines tournament at Orrell. Ganson did it 2-3 times on the same penalty to Saints for dissent.

Read what I said, not what you want it to say.

That's because he was still busy waving his arms around after the game so they thought they'd make use of it and get him directing some traffic.

Graham took a frightful pasting today and was targeted time and again by our forwards.

It got to the point where with 5 mins to go I'm sure I saw him throw himself to the floor rather then take another hit.

We won the game by controlling him and Roby again.

Well, I knew one of them would one day say something I'd agree with.

But talk about not knowing what side your bread's buttered on. The ref was the best pal they had today.

no more than brett finch, in the refree's ear the whole game.

Jammer will go too far soon and get sent off in a big game it's only a matter of time, if he does that in the NRL he'll get punished for it.