Well seeing as he hasn't 'admitted' he was planking. He has JOKED that he was. I think it's pretty obvious even to the dumbest person on the planet that he is briefly out cold.

Lol ok was just a question I personally thought he was out cold and really felt for him hate him like him it's not nice to see a player on the ground like that, I didn't see the other thread on here for planking lol, so u think hel be back for Monday with kr, I think he needs at least two weeks rest

I think the only positive that can be seen from this is that on any other week I think Joel would have gone and taken a swing at Raynor for that and I'm glad to see that he, relatively, kept his cool and only shouted at Ganson who at the time looked like he wasnt in understanding of how bad Sam was and he appears to be telling Ganson that he needs to keep the Bradford players from crowding him in protest. Seeing it again makes me think that these calls that he was going for the ball are rubbish he was miles from the ball and if you watch he lifts his arm up as he goes in.

Also does John Kear try to claim it was hitting the floor that knocked him out and then says it was a "Brave decision" to send him off I missed all that from frustration on Sunday what an idiot he is.

I've posted on another thread that I agree with this.

Ganson may well have shown leniency sending Joel away rather than yellow-carding him.

But I thought he handled the situation well. He calmed things down and when he was in full possession of the facts, he sent the offender off without any hesitation.

Why are people worried about Ganson apparently not being worried about Sam's health. It's not his job, his job is to police the game which he was doing and defusing a situation that could have ended up with a group of players fighting around Sam.

What medical skills does Ganson have that would have made him getting involved with Sam's injury a better option than the medical staff who where there in seconds?

The priotity in that situation is to get EVERYONE away from the prone player team mates included so the medical team can deal with it without the worry that a brawl may engulf them and to my mind thats what Ganson tried to do.By running to the ref and having a go ( and i understand why he did it ) Joel is then without realising it giving reason for Bradford players to come over and have a go at him.

It was a red card offence if ever there was one imo,and the card was rightly produced after the medical staff sorted the situation.

why does it matter that Joel is Sams brother on a rugby pitch? Why should either be exempt from the rules because of that relationship?

Neither of them should be. Dissent is entirely down to the referees opinion and interpretation. Considering Ganson has dismissed both Sam and Joel for dissent in the past suggests that he'll do them no favours, but on this occasion he obviously felt that a verbal warning was the correct action. The fact that they are brothers is likely to have an impact on how they react in certain situations though.

Quote: Hartster "How badly hurt was Tomkins?. So badly hurt that he was able to keep possession and ground the ball cleanly? There wasn't a mark on him when he went up the tunnel after the game.'" Watch it here and see for yourself news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 509140.stm Tomkin's was clearly spark out. He grounded the ball by sheer luck because of how close he was to the floor

Quote: Hartster "How badly hurt was Tomkins?. So badly hurt that he was able to keep possession and ground the ball cleanly? There wasn't a mark on him when he went up the tunnel after the game.'" Watch it here and see for yourself news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 509140.stm Tomkin's was clearly spark out. He grounded the ball by sheer luck because of how close he was to the floor

Terrible to see on the TV.

Eyes open and spark out- I was very worried until he stood up.

Understandable for JT to react to that. Some of his reactions are out of order but that one was understandable.