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| Quote: shambawangy "For say a 22,000 stadium with 6,000 standing judging by the cost of a few new builds around the country that are ongoing you would be looking at £25-30m, where the hell are we going to get that from? The council certainly wouldnt entertain it either.
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Hypothetically speaking, if Waitrose wanted to build a store in Wigan or Morrisons/Sainsburys wanted to re-locate to another area of the town the council would certainly expect something in return to be put back (or contributed) into the community.
And that's just focusing on the supermarket industry.
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| Quote: ABP' "IAnother question would be to our supporters; Are you honestly happy with us playing at The DW?'"
What are you not happy with particularly, the ground share? the location, the stadium itself?
Its a travesty that Central park was never developed, but the reality of the situation is that we were shafted big time and now rent a stadium. I still think we are far better off buying some of the stadium we currently rent, therefore at least we get an extra income stream from corporate and wont get turfed out everytime Latics feel like it.
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| I like the DW.
Not too difficult to get to from the M58.
Designated parking.
Good access.
Fantastic view from my season ticket seat.
Fans have made it home with all the flags and have done a fantastic job with that. It looks like Wigan's home ground to me.
OK that's thanks to the fans but they make or break a ground which ever club it is.
IL says it is simply not viable to build a stand alone stadium. Also if the two were competting for the small corporate market in Wigan they'd both probably go broke.
We have a very long lease on favourable terms.
Not seen the pics of Saints ground but I'm sure it looks good.
They will be paying it off for years and in the end will probably have to ground share with another sporting club.
Ground sharing doesn't bother me. HullFC do it as do Hudds and Leeds. It's a financial fact of life and it doesn't bother me one jot!
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| Quote: Cruncher "Personally I like the DW and have come to regard it as home, mainly because of the convenience of its location and its first class facilities.
For a long time it didn't feel like home, mainly because of the constant (though now, I realise, imaginary) threat that Latics were going to suddenly show us the door.
We have a long lease on the ground, and with Latics struggling to survive in the Premiership seemingly every season, it's become clear that DW Stadium could not sustain itself if only one club were using it. Moreover, if Latics do get relegated, I'd imagine the fixture clash issue - another sore point with many Wigan fans - will evaporate.
Also, as others have said, it's a pipe-dream that we could go off and build our own stadium. Even if we could afford it, why would Wigan Council allow it when we already have a perfectly good stadium in the heart of the borough?'"
THIS.
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| Why dont we knock TESCO down and build it on Central Park?
No seriously I think our current stadium is now our home.
Anything else is just a pipedream.
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| Quote: shambawangy "What are you not happy with particularly, the ground share? the location, the stadium itself?
Its a travesty that Central park was never developed, but the reality of the situation is that we were shafted big time and now rent a stadium. I still think we are far better off buying some of the stadium we currently rent, therefore at least we get an extra income stream from corporate and wont get turfed out everytime Latics feel like it.'"
a new stadium would be along the lines of a HJ, rather than a DW, so we could kiss goodbye to internationals and WCC in Wigan.
Im happy with the DW, good location, parking, top facilities, only downside is having to share it with a championship footy team
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| see nothing wrong with the DW in all honestly and i don't really support the tics, neither am i bothered that we share with them. i only caught the last couple of years at CP so there is no issue here if you may be thinking i;ve only ever supported wigan at the DW / JJB as it was back then.
a NEED for a stadium will come when we know we won't have one or the current one is no longer up to the standards set. at present we know we have a home for the future and it does meet the standards required so i see no issue.
just because saints get a new stadium - they HAD to move to a new stadium otherwsie they risked their SL licence i'd imagine? us wiganers are getting very jealous these days
wigan are in a superb position financially and structurally in my opinion with a great youth development programme along with coaching and back room staff etc, why deter from that by plowing a fortune into a new stadium and upsetting the rhythm when its not necessary?
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| Quote: ABP' "I was on site at the new Saints stadium site last Thursday.
It looks absolutley fantastic. I could barely concentrate speaking to some of the contractors for thinking how can't a club like Wigan Rugby League have something like this of our own. It just seems to me that Ian Lenegan doesn't even want to entertain the idea but it would be interesting to know what the possibilites are and what could be done hypothetically. The JJB/DW has never felt like home to me personally, in fact I hate it. It's simply a nice structure designed for Wigan Athletic that we can rent for nice facilities. However in my opinion we should have our own identity, our own facilites, our own taylor made Rugby stadium designed for Rugby League supporters that we can be proud of.
Another question would be to our supporters; Are you honestly happy with us playing at The DW?'"
In a perfect world it would be great but the pros out way the cons of (what I'm sure most of us want) having our own ground.
Saints already seem to be sinking finacially and yes their ground will be amazing but IMO they will struggle massaively, especially with the depleting crowds.
We are in profit for the first time in years why should we change that?
Who knows whats in store for latics finances 'should/if/WHEN' they go down and that along with us being profitable may well lead a very romantic road for us
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| Quote: shambawangy "What are you not happy with particularly, the ground share? the location, the stadium itself?
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It's Wigan Athletic's stadium designed for Football which we merely rent. It's not home, it's just a football stadium. It doesn't have character or any sort of identity that relates the the club and I think that's reflected on to match day atmosphere's other than big games. There's no matchday experience or freedom to walk along a terrace and interact with different people which is what Rugby League is about. As I walked around the new Saints stadium I already could sense their new identity and how proud they are of their own, modern home ground that people will see for miles and know that it belongs to St Helens RLFC.
That's my opinion anyway, each to their own. However, I think some of our supporters conentment of the DW will soon turn to jealousy in 10 years time.
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| ...And I'm not too proud to say I'm jealous.
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| i like the DW good view of the pitch from all stands, great location (for me ), top notch facilities but it does at times lack atmosphere. if you had to do pros and cons for me the pros win.
i do wonder if we need more games on a saturday night though i think its the perfect day as apposed to people rushing home from work on a friday night i know people work on weekends but the majority work mon - fri and having a sat night game gives people the chance to enjoy the build up and after match
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| Quote: ABP' "...And I'm not too proud to say I'm jealous.'"
To be honest, it would have to be a very special ground to make me jealous.
For example, I'm not remotely jealous of Warrington's ground. It's solid and serviceable enough, but it still reminds me of something an amateur club would use.
How would you feel about the DW if - say, Wigan bought a chiunk of it? Serious question, because there are rumours to that effect.
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| Quote: Cruncher " How would you feel about the DW if - say, Wigan bought a chiunk of it? Serious question, because there are rumours to that effect.'"
It wouldn't alter my opinion of the place, though I'd be pleased if it opens up additional revenue for the Club.
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| Quote: Cruncher "How would you feel about the DW if - say, Wigan bought a chiunk of it? Serious question, because there are rumours to that effect.'"
If we could revamp it to include terracing and add more of Rugby League character to the stadium I could relate it to the club.
So, I'd probably say yes.
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