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| Quote: TheSurgeon "OMG ! its coming to something when we have a "big" game against a team who've not won the league for 50 years, and not even won the cup for 59 years. Whatever next ? a big one4 against Cas.'"
True but the phrase "Big One" is just a marketing tool. It was either this or Leeds match and I think Hudds is a bigger game on paper this year so far.
I guess they think the Leeds game can market itself to a good crowd anyway so seems a sensible idea to put effort into Huddersfield than the Leeds game.
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| Quote: MattyB "It's called Marketing. Our current average is 18,398
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I don't expect it but a crowd of 15,361 v Quins next Friday was see us have a bigger total attendance than second highest average Leeds having played a game less!
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| Quote: Paul Youane "I'd agree with that. Just can't see 20,000 for this.
What is the capacity of the three "home" stands? A £10 per ticket offer to Huddersfield fans won't make a difference - they're use to their season tickets not being much more than that.'"
£10 for giants season ticket?! i wish! £175 for mine this season.
i always go to wigan and hopefully few more giants fans will for this one.
away following is on the up..ticket office recorded recent pre-buy ticket sales for the away games at leeds and crusaders
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| Quote: TheSurgeon "OMG ! its coming to something when we have a "big" game against a team who've not won the league for 50 yearsQuote: TheSurgeon "]
Well, we had a Big One against the Wolfs, so it's not the first time we've played a famous old club that hardly anyone alive can remember seeing win the league!
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| Quote: Deano G "Quote: Deano G "OMG ! its coming to something when we have a "big" game against a team who've not won the league for 50 years
True Deano
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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| I don't think the name of Hudds will help draw 20k. Poor idea IMO, by all means try and market this game but the BIG ONE should have been Leeds.
When the first on was announced in 2009 I was looking forward to it because it was Leeds, the champions. We have had many classic games with them down the years.
Then Warrington, one of our local rivals, loads of away support.
Having around 18-19k on for this game with only a few away fans will make fun of the name IMO.
However, it will improve the average because the Leeds game will pull 17k without any marketing.
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| Quote: Odemwingie "I don't think the name of Hudds will help draw 20k. Poor idea IMO, by all means try and market this game but the BIG ONE should have been Leeds.
When the first on was announced in 2009 I was looking forward to it because it was Leeds, the champions. We have had many classic games with them down the years.
Then Warrington, one of our local rivals, loads of away support.
Having around 18-19k on for this game with only a few away fans will make fun of the name IMO.
However, it will improve the average because the Leeds game will pull 17k without any marketing.'"
It's all about our averages though. If the Hudds game gets an extra 4/5,000 on from last year then thats a massive success. We've probably only increased the crowd by 4/5,000 for the 'big ones' in the past.
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| Quote: Pemps "It's all about our averages though. If the Hudds game gets an extra 4/5,000 on from last year then thats a massive success. We've probably only increased the crowd by 4/5,000 for the 'big ones' in the past.'"
Correct. Last season's Wigan v Hudds crowd was 13,619
Anything over 18k will be seen as a success, but I'm sure the club will be aiming for 20k+
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| Quote: brearley84 "£10 for giants season ticket?! i wish! £175 for mine this season.
i always go to wigan and hopefully few more giants fans will for this one.
away following is on the up..ticket office recorded recent pre-buy ticket sales for the away games at leeds and crusaders'"
Wow! Hudds fans bought tickets before game day. Just how low was Hudds' following previously?
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[b:2boqkfe7][color=#800000:2boqkfe7]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
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| What is also interesting is what effect the 'big one' events could be having on corresponding matches the year after (when all attendees pay full price):
Leeds (H)
2008 - 14,911
2009 - 20,295 (The Big One)
2010 - 17,883
2011 - ?
Wire (H)
2008 - 15,537
2009 - 13,452
2010 - 22,701 (The Big One)
2011 - 21,056
Obviously the reality that Wigan (and Wire) are much better teams than in 2008 will show some improvement in attendances, but it can't be ignored that The Big One events seem to help the same fixture a year later.
Will be interesting to see how next years Wigan v Hudds attendance pans out, somewhere in the middle (c17k) would be tremendous.
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| No matter what we do marketing and seat prices wise - we wont get more that 1k Hudds fans over here on a friday night.
Considering the improvement in their team and the high quality stadium they play at their current home average is barely 8k, in fact the highest attendance they've pulled all season is only 9.5k. They're not a well supported club - so how are we expecting to attract big numbers for an away game?
Simple - We're aiming to pull in the extra numbers from our own area - the Radlinski article on the club web site is pushing the 'bring your, friends, work mates, neighbours' angle.
It starting to annoy me that we are the only club really achieving in the attendances area. There's only Leeds who'll come anywhere near our average this season and they'll by 20-30% below ours.
Its about time other clubs stepped up to the mark.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: MattyB "What is also interesting is what effect the 'big one' events could be having on corresponding matches the year after (when all attendees pay full price)
Regardless of that, this game just doesn't have the same feel as the other two. Those attendances are due to the quality of our team and also the warrington team.
Leeds has always been a big game and Warrington is a local derby. Much different to playing Hudds.
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[b:2boqkfe7][color=#800000:2boqkfe7]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024
SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1998, 2010, 2013, 2016, 2018, 2023 & 2024
CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010, 2012, 2020, 2023 & 2024
ACADEMY GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019 & 2024
WOMEN’S GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2018
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| Quote: Giz "No matter what we do marketing and seat prices wise - we wont get more that 1k Hudds fans over here on a friday night.
Considering the improvement in their team and the high quality stadium they play at their current home average is barely 8k, in fact the highest attendance they've pulled all season is only 9.5k. They're not a well supported club - so how are we expecting to attract big numbers for an away game?
Simple - We're aiming to pull in the extra numbers from our own area - the Radlinski article on the club web site is pushing the 'bring your, friends, work mates, neighbours' angle.
It starting to annoy me that we are the only club really achieving in the attendances area. There's only Leeds who'll come anywhere near our average this season and they'll by 20-30% below ours.
Its about time other clubs stepped up to the mark.'"
Hudds will have a core support of a few thousand, these are the type of people that Wigan are offering 1,500 ten pound tickets to and are hoping will travel.
It's already been stated on here that they took a similar amount to Wrexham at full price.
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[b:2boqkfe7][color=#800000:2boqkfe7]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024
SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1998, 2010, 2013, 2016, 2018, 2023 & 2024
CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010, 2012, 2020, 2023 & 2024
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| Quote: Odemwingie "Regardless of that, this game just doesn't have the same feel as the other two. Those attendances are due to the quality of our team and also the warrington team.
Leeds has always been a big game and Warrington is a local derby. Much different to playing Hudds.'"
It probably doesn't make financial sense to promote Leeds as the 'Big One' anymore (as the club have to subsidise entry fees), we had nearly 18,000 full paying customers last season. It certainly doesn't make sense to offer it to Wire, just like we wouldn't with Stains.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Giz "
Its about time other clubs stepped up to the mark.'"
Said this for a good while.... Wigan are one of the few clubs who could do f*ck all with marketing and still pull an average of 11-12k and never hear a peep from the RFL. We would get the fans in just by being Wigan.... and yet there are clubs in super league who's survival depends on their crowds and there are clubs who should be doing a lot better in this area and yet they do nothing!
Leeds should be having a big one at Elland Road against Leeds.
Hull should be doing similar.
Smaller clubs like Cas and Wakey could be doing a lot more.
Quins should be getting as many school kids in as possible...
None of this happens, if it did then the profile of our game would be up a notch.
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