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Quote: Bovrick "I don't see why that would be too much of a problem, who would expect England to beat overseas stars in the Premiership in Football?

Should be a better match than watching England spend 75mins attacking the French line and scoring at will, and 5mins watching England trying to remember how their defensive line was supposed to work.

I would be.

I'm happy with this on one condition (I don't know any details btw) that Wales play France so the French still have a match.'"


It's not exactly an 'all-star' team though is it. It's a team of former NRL players. Current Kangaroo contenders are not playing over here and the Kiwi's only used Tommy L from SL.

A true all star team would have the likes of Lockyer, Inglis, Slater, Marshall et al...

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Quote: cadoo "Not how I see it.

I don't understand how England thrashing France once a year mid way through a season improves either nation. England don't get a challenge and so you don't really learn enough from the match. France struggle to gain interest, as the French people will not be interested in watching France get hammered in a one off test in June every year. Plus I don't see what their squad gains from it. The whole event needed addressing and rectifying with a viable alternative & I think this may be it.

I would still like to see France play a test. A build up match before the England v Overseas match between France & Wales would be an excellent idea. We have a welsh team and a french team so it includes every team in Super League. Wales get the opportunity to prepare for the four nations and France will play in a competitive match.

From an England perspective we will get a much sterner challenge and the game subsequently has more appeal to supporters. I've never seen England get out of third gear against France & they've still won very comfortably. As hopeless as Steve McNamara is, he isn't going to learn a lot about his players because England wont be facing opposition like this when they play New Zealand and Australia. At least this game will tell us more about the team. I also disagree with people saying we wont be competitive or will get hammered, you must remember our lads come up against these Super League players every week in their respective positions. A win would give our lads a huge confidence boost. Nevertheless, even if England lost, I don't think it would be a particularly bad thing. At least we've had a competitive match. The whole event has much more appeal to me as a supporter than the test match against France.

I hope the RFL go through with it and look forward to the event.'"


Just a few years back, the Kiwi's were getting pummelled by the roos, now they're world number ones, if they'd been told to go back to playing PNG for example would this be so? As someone else said, one of the biggest problems the French have is their coaching infrastructure imho. but you could say that about England icon_confused.gif

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Good idea. I think they should limit the overseas team to two players per SL club though, otherwise there'd probably be 3-4 clubs losing 4-5 players and risking getting them injured for a one-off friendly

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'England are set to take on an all-stars team drawn from leading overseas players based in Engage Super League this summer.

The fixture, which will replace the annual mid-season international against France on the second weekend of June, has been agreed by the clubs but has yet to be ratified.'

This sounds crackin! Much better than watchin England drum 60 past France.

So, judging from this past year, who do you will be in the allstar team from Wigan? and overall?

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I dont any player from MY club repersenting the so called all star team as its going to be either midweek or at the weekend which will deseremate OUR club if we have 2/3 selected aswell as the 3 England players.

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Quote: those were the days "I dont any player from MY club repersenting the so called all star team as its going to be either midweek or at the weekend which will deseremate OUR club if we have 2/3 selected aswell as the 3 England players.'"


So you would feel this way if they were getting selected for France, Australia or New Zealand?

Last year we had an international and saturday and our boys played the following day against Quins think your getting a bit worked up - i think this a good thing for the game!

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If they where getting picked for France/NZ/Australia it can be jusified as there a proper nation unlike this made up idea by the RFL i just dont want OUR players picking up injuries in a mengliness game.

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Have advocated it for years and it is the best we can manage to give the England squad decent opposition prior to which otherwise they will not get.
A very good idea and I hope it works.

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Quote: those were the days "I dont any player from MY club repersenting the so called all star team as its going to be either midweek or at the weekend which will deseremate OUR club if we have 2/3 selected aswell as the 3 England players.'"


Common sense applies here. If you have so many players selected (think it's 4) then you can postpone the game. Wigan wont suddenly be without Sam Tomkins, Joel Tomkins, Sean O'loughlin, Darrell Goulding, Ryan Hoffman, Brett Finch, Amos Roberts, Pat Richards and Jeff Lima one weekend.

I hope there will be a rule where you can only select so many players from one club. Otherwise it will be mainly all Wigan, Saints, Leeds and Warrington players playing in the fixture.

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cue mysterious injuries as in wendyball meaningless friendlies

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Quote: those were the days "If they where getting picked for France/NZ/Australia it can be jusified as there a proper nation unlike this made up idea by the RFL i just dont want OUR players picking up injuries in a mengliness game.'"


That's a very narrow minded viewpoint. The game needs a much improved international scene if we wish to grow, which will inturn benefit Wigan (greater sky money etc).

As for injuries, it's just part of sport. I don't think for a second it's a meaningless game either. What about pre-season games? You don't get a point for them, but players could quite easily pick up an injury? What about training games?

The only thing I would hope is a cap on how many players from one club you can select for the fixture. The top four teams - Wigan, Saints, Leeds and Warrington (possibly Huddersfield) - would make up the vast majority of both sides and I hope we can avoid a situation like that.

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Sounds like a great match and I would certainly be attending, is there any venues in the pipe line?

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Quote: Memony "Just a few years back, the Kiwi's were getting pummelled by the roos, now they're world number ones, if they'd been told to go back to playing PNG for example would this be so? As someone else said, one of the biggest problems the French have is their coaching infrastructure imho. but you could say that about England
I'm not sure if you can compare New Zealand/Australia to England/France. New Zealand were always competitive against Australia. They've just come through a period of tremendous talent coming through and stepping up on the international stage.

France on the other hand have never been that competitive with England. The last match finished as a 60-6 hammering and England never got out of second gear. How does this mid-season game improve the French national team, not to mention the international scene? I don't see what on earth they get out of it. Their players get smacked and lose confidence. Spectators lose interest in a match that isn't competitive. French RL would struggle to drum up some interest in a situation like that.

Although, I agree with what posters have been saying about not casting the French aside. We shouldn't. A poster has talked of France playing an 'England Lions' squad made up of fringe England players - Lee Mossop, Liam Farrell for example. I personally would like to see them play Wales on the same weekend, possibly as a build to the England/all stars match. At least in both scenarios the French team could be competitive and gain some confidence. The French will get more out of a competitive match than a slamming to England IMO. People want to see competitive matches. If I was a french supporter, I would be far more inclined to watch our national side be competitive in a match against England Lions/Wales than see us get slammed against England in a non-contest every year mid-June.

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Quote: cadoo "I hope there will be a rule where you can only select so many players from one club. Otherwise it will be mainly all Wigan, Saints, Leeds and Warrington players playing in the fixture.'"


I think this would be a great idea. Not only would it spread the potential problems of injuries around the league fairly, it would force creativity in the selection process rather than the obvious 'top player' selections.

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About time this got organised. The last few mid season internationals have been a waste of time. This would be the nearest to origin games we'll get over here.

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