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Wigan are very confident of world domination already, I see.

Interesting.
Is that confidence, arrogance or blind hope?

Also, i don't know where this confidence that J.M won't do well is coming from.
He may not be the best in the league but he isn't rated TOO highly by anyone. People seem to be intimating absolute failure. I think that is unlikely

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Quote: jdrocket "Wigan are very confident of world domination already, I see.

Interesting.
Is that confidence, arrogance or blind hope?

Also, i don't know where this confidence that J.M won't do well is coming from.
He may not be the best in the league but he isn't rated TOO highly by anyone. People seem to be intimating absolute failure. I think that is unlikely'"

Hard not to be confident to be honnest, with the coaching staff we've got

Take the team that comfortabley won the GF, add a fully fit Amos Roberts, a new and hopefully improved Gareth Hock and the 3 Melbourne boys and we're looking strong.

Most of its just blind hope though icon_wink.gif

In regards to JM I think he'll go well at Wire, similair playing style to our Paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

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Quote: 19 Leagues "For Wigan
SL finishWorst signing
Losing a franchise


More like worst signing is Bailey to Salford.

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Quote: King Johns II "More like worst signing is Bailey to Salford.'"


Oh yeah, i was too busy thinking about the next question icon_lol.gif

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For Wigan
SL finish2nd(we'll take our eye off the ball a little due to the WCC imo)
Play off performance Losing Finalists(Saints to finally nail one)
CC performanceWinners
Overated playerCan't think of any tbh
Underated playerCarmont(he's a gem that isn't given enough credit sometimes)
Most improvedMcIlorum(He'll play for England at the end of 2011 if he stays fit)
Least improved Joel Tomkins(I could see him having a quieter season this time)
Signing to watchHoffman(world class)
Rookie to watch (10 games or less)Charnley

For Super leagueSt Helens
Most improved teamSalford
Least improved teamWakefield
Overated playerWillie Mason
Underated player Andy Lynch(never seems to get his rewards for such consistant form)
Best signing Luke O'Donnell(he's one tough player and will get stuck in)
Worst signingWillie Mason
Losing a franchiseWakefield
Gaining a franchiseWidnes

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For Wigan
SL finish: 1st
Play off performance: Win the final
CC performance: Semis
Overated player: Joel Tomkins
Underated player: Paul Deacon
Most improved: Micky Mac
Least improved: Amos Roberts
Signing to watch: Jeff Lima
Rookie to watch (10 games or less): Joe Mellor

For Super league:
Winners: Wigan
Most improved team: Bradford
Least improved team: Castleford
Overated player: LMS
Underated player: Pat Richards (nobody else other than us rate Pat!)
Best signing: Matt Diskin to Bradford
Worst signing: LMS to stains
Losing a franchise: Wakefield
Gaining a franchise: Widnes

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For Wigan
SL finish: 1st
Play off performance: WINNERS
CC performance: WINNERS
Overated player:
Underated player: O'Loughlin
Most improved: Goulding
Least improved: Pryce
Signing to watch: Finch
Rookie to watch (10 games or less): Mellor

For Super league:
Winners: Wigan
Most improved team: Salford
Least improved team: Saints
Overated player: Eastmond
Underated player: OLoughlin
Best signing: Hodgson - Wire
Worst signing: Mathers - Cas icon_lol.gif
Losing a franchise: Wakey
Gaining a franchise: Widnes

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For Wigan
SL finish: 1st
Play off performance: winners
CC performance: winners
Overated player: ???? not a clue because I feel we are underated!
Underated player: McIllorum
Most improved: Prescott
Least improved: Pryce
Signing to watch: Finch
Rookie to watch (10 games or less): Joe Mellor

For Super league:
Winners: Wigan
Most improved team: Salford
Least improved team: Hull KR
Overated player: Willie Mason
Underated player: Sean O'Loughlin, so underated by the rest of super league
Best signing: Leeds signing Hauraki he will improve their pack!
Worst signing: Ian Sibbit to Bradford
Losing a franchise: Wakefield
Gaining a franchise: Widnes

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For Wigan
SL finish: 1st
Play off performance: Winners
CC performance: Winners
Overated player: Pryce (overrated by being in the squad)
Underated player: Tuson
Most improved: Farrell (Will continue to improve to England level IMO)
Least improved: Pryce
Signing to watch: Hoffman
Rookie to watch (10 games or less): Mellor

For Super league:
Winners: Wigan
Most improved team: Salford
Least improved team: St Helens / Leeds (both due to slide)
Overated player: Leon Pryce / Ade Gardner
Underated player: Tuson
Best signing: Perry
Worst signing: Mathers
Losing a franchise: Wakey
Gaining a franchise: Widnes

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For Wigan
SL finish: 1st
Play off performance: Winners
CC performance: Winners
Overated player: Sam Tomkins ( in full back position )
Underated player: Karl Pryce
Most improved: Karl Pryce
Least improved: Marsh
Signing to watch: Hoffman
Rookie to watch (10 games or less): Charnley

For Super league:
Winners: Wigan
Most improved team: Salford
Least improved team: Leeds
Overated player: Willie Mason
Underated player: Karl Pryce
Best signing: Ryan Hoffman
Worst signing: Willie Mason
Losing a franchise: Wakefield
Gaining a franchise: Widnes

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For Wigan
SL finish: 1st
Play off performance: Win the final
CC performance: Win the Challenge Cup
Overated player: Lee Mossop
Underated player: Darrell Goulding
Most improved: Paul Prescott
Least improved: Karl Pryce
Signing to watch: Ryan Hoffman
Rookie to watch (10 games or less): Joe Mellor

For Super league:
Winners: Wigan
Most improved team: Bradford
Least improved team: Wakefield
Overated player: Kris Welham
Underated player: Andy Lynch
Best signing: Ryan Hoffman
Worst signing: Phil Bailey
Losing a franchise: Wakefield
Gaining a franchise: Widnes

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For Wigan
SL finish:1st
Play off performance:At least reach the Final possibly win again
CC performance:Final
Overated player:Tomkins (hes amazing but he is still overrated somehow haha)
Underated playericon_razz.gifryce (as per)
Most improved:I expect Mickey Mac
Least improvedicon_razz.gifat (can't really improve can he?)
Signing to watch:Finch because im interested to see what he gives us in the halves
Rookie to watch (10 games or less):I want to see the new Tomkins but I expect Charnley will be the one to watch

For Super league:
Winners: Wigan! icon_smile.gif
Most improved team: Bradford
Least improved team: Dire
Overated player: Briers!
Underated player: Lockers
Best signing: Monaghan (gonna bring so much comedy next season haha)
Worst signing: Monaghan (hes gonna get absolutely destroyed)
Losing a franchise: Wakey and Crusaders
Gaining a franchise: Widnes and Halifax

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For Wigan
SL finish: 1st
Play off performance: Grand Final Win
CC performance: Finalists & Winners
Overated player: Lee Mossop (At this moment in time, I feel if we can get a fully fit season out of him, my opinion would change)
Underated player: Paul Deacon.
Most improved: Mickey McIlorum
Least improved: Pat Richards - He cant get much better can he? icon_lol.gif
Signing to watch: Ryan Hoffman
Rookie to watch (10 games or less): Josh Charnley

For Super league:
Winners: Wigan
Most improved team: The Bulls
Least improved team: Leeds
Overated player: Paul Wellens
Underated player: Rangi Chase
Best signing: Matt Diskin to Bradford - Just what they need IMO.
Worst signing: Richie Mathers to Cas
Losing a franchise: Wakey
Gaining a franchise: Widnes

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Quote: jdrocket "Wigan are very confident of world domination already, I see.

Interesting.
Is that confidence, arrogance or blind hope?


Also, i don't know where this confidence that J.M won't do well is coming from.
He may not be the best in the league but he isn't rated TOO highly by anyone. People seem to be intimating absolute failure. I think that is unlikely'"


If you want an unbiased opinion pop into your local bookies.

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Quote: jinkin jimmy "If you want an unbiased opinion pop into your local bookies.'"


Well put jinkin.

Was looking at the odds at the weekend.

6/4 to win SL
6/4 to win CC

Very stingy odds indeed. Bookies seem to be even more confident than us.

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