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| Quote: nikos "please explain to me?'"
English people had red cheeks resembling pomegranates, hence Pom. There's also the story about them getting really red in the heat and again compared to pomegranates. Another version of the pomegranate theme is that it's rhyming slang - immigrant = pomegranate
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Its simply because Australia isn't as PC as in this Country I wouldn't be surprised if in that country there are Pakistanis who actually arent offended by that word it depends if it was ever used in a derogatory way to them it could be the same as us saying Pakistani it may be the word they use. Different countries have different "offensive words" for example it is considered very racist to say "oriental" in reference to anyone asian in America like "Oriental Cuisine" which is very common in this country.
I don't find Pom offensive i just dont get why they call us it if it means Prisoner of His/Her Majesty when that is them? haha
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another example of aussies for ya haha.
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Its simply because Australia isn't as PC as in this Country I wouldn't be surprised if in that country there are Pakistanis who actually arent offended by that word it depends if it was ever used in a derogatory way to them it could be the same as us saying Pakistani it may be the word they use. Different countries have different "offensive words" for example it is considered very racist to say "oriental" in reference to anyone asian in America like "Oriental Cuisine" which is very common in this country.
I don't find Pom offensive i just dont get why they call us it if it means Prisoner of His/Her Majesty when that is them? haha
answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 612AAkBeP2
another example of aussies for ya haha.
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| Quote: hula89 "
I don't find Pom offensive i just dont get why they call us it if it means Prisoner of His/Her Majesty when that is them? haha
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That's the bit I've never got.
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| Quote: WormInHand "I've never understood them calling [ius[/i Poms. Surely [ithey're[/i the exported prisoners?'"
All the prisoners came from England originally
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32444_1318716838.jpg [quote="Philip Larkin":2lhqd089]
There ain’t no music
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That’s mellow like mine is,
That’s mellow like mine.
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| Quote: ray13 "
And left the non-convicted behind. So the POMs are the [iAussies[/i' ancestors.
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| Quote: hare&hounds "i think as most australians have never been out of their country . they really think we like warm beer ,we dont use soap etc etc .when i was there 2006 buses in sydney had a picture of a can of foster in ice and underneath the words pommies worst nightmare . most of them are pricks'"
MOST of the Sheila's aren't.
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| There's absolutely no evidence to back up the "prisoner of mother england" theory whatsoever, or "prisoner of his/her majesty" either.
The 2 or 3 pomegranate theories seem most likely, according to most etymologists.
As for the racism angle on the "Paki" phrase, as well as the "Pom" phrase, it's generally accepted that racism is in the eye of the receiver, so to speak, so if the "Paki" or "Pom" being spoken to (or even just overhearing the reference) finds it offensive, then by definition it IS offensive.
As a simple derivative, it could be argued that "Paki" is short for "Pakistani", in the same way that "Brit" is an accepted shortening of "British". By that simple analogy, you could argue that "Paki" is not an offensive phrase, if used purely as an abbreviation. However as said above, it is not up to the speaker to decide if the phrase is offensive, but down to the listener.
From a British perspective of course, "Paki" was a mainstay phrase of the Bernard Manning / Jim Davidson school of comedy, and as such was clearly used in a derogatory way, and ought to be frowned upon, especially as the "Paki" in question could quite easily be Indian, Bangladeshi, Persian, Turkish or whatever. However different cultures and nationalities clearly have differing backgrounds, cultural references etc, and we can't simply transpose our meanings on to their usage.
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